Miles (Kill-o-meters) On a Budget

[nogearshere]

Righto.
I have this friend. Let's call him Peter.
Peter has too many kids, works too many hours and has very little time for anything more than a 2hr mash fest in the bush...usually at night.

Let's say Peter is going to the TransRockies and it has just become brutally obvious (following a crushing 8hr epic) that his partner is in FAR better shape then he. Peter could more than hold his own in the tight and nasty but couldn't hold the pace when it opened up. His partner is a roadie...giv'er'take some mud.

How in the HE double L does Peter smash 4hr road rides into weekdays that end at 9pm and start at 8am??? up at 4am? out till 1am?

Seriously, does a 2hr morning and 2hr evening ride even come close to ONE dedicated 4hr ride?




Please help me help him.

[mimbresman]

Peter needs a clone (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1800259411/info).

[OTBSkinloss]

I'd start doping early and often. EPO, Meth, Roids, if you can get your hands on it, take it.
It's what I'd do.

[rockyrider]

Have your friend get himself a Blackberry and a cell phone with a headset, and that way he can take work phone calls while riding, and use the bar mounted blackberry to answer emails, check the inventory and process orders. Just make the ride part of his work day and hire someone to do those tedious things like build wheels and assemble bikes...

A heads up display for the sunglasses would be even better. If he's concerned about what people will say while he's riding around, apparently talking to himself, add a big garbage bag full of pop cans to the back of the bike. Actually that might help fund the TransRockie tour.

The other option is to fill his riding partner's tire with mercury to slow his partner down to his pace so they can stay within 15 minutes of each other.

[nogearshere]

Seriously, does a 2hr morning and 2hr evening ride even come close to ONE dedicated 4hr ride?
Can anyone comment on this from an actual-factual pov...could one simulate an endurance event through spurt training.



...yes simulate and spurt...grow-up...

[rockyrider]

Can anyone comment on this from an actual-factual pov...could one simulate an endurance event through spurt training.The comparison of 2x 2hr = 1x 4hr ride will depend on the recovery time you allow between the 2hr sections. If you allow an 8 hour work day in between the two segments that is quite a long recovery time that a 4 hour ride wouldn't have. That sounds like good commuter training.

How about doing the 2x 2 hr rides as a start, and then get up mind bendingly early a couple of days a week and do a 4 hour ride between 5AM-9AM twice a week and no late day ride to transitition into longer rides.

[xjoex]

My wife is an ultra runner, she has been doing two hours in the morning and 1 hour in the evening for a while now with really good results.

-Joe

[S. cerevisiae]

Agreed that 2x2hr would be adequate if the time between was filled with other strenuous activity (heavy construction or carpenter's laborer), or if they were not too far apart.

Many marathoners used to split their training day up into two runs, one often intervals, the other LSD (oooh, you could try hallucinogens for the ride too).

Would make the race more funner.

[davkatreb]

Peter has too many kids, works too many hours
[B]How in the HE double L does Peter smash 4hr road rides into weekdays that end at 9pm and start at 8am???
He doesn't. His "too many" kids will be his first priority until the last one is grown.

[nogearshere]

He doesn't. His "too many" kids will be his first priority until the last one is grown.

insightful, like a fart on acid.

[nogearshere]

if the training splits there will be a good bit of rest in between...not to mention wet chamois. probably better then a 6 pack and pork rinds though.

i think the best bet right now is to back out of the ontario cup series and substitute a 5hr road ride for this 1.5hr sprint...sponsorship will not be supported but somethings got to give. then maybe a no shipping wednesday would work for a few months...so long as the famdamnly doesnt come by to visit they will be none the wiser...

oops i mean they are my priority, i shall eat sleep and die an early unhealthy death, but dammit i was there...like it or not kids.

[myron]

Ride a fixgear off road and on........... Whatever time you do get to ride is multiplied by pie(3.14)

My quest is to be able to ride the entire white trail and never have to walk any section before the end of the year. New fixgear mtb comming soon, culler unknown

[1mystk]

So let's say I have this friend.. let's call him Peter. What input/advise does his partner in this race have for him?

I actually think what Rocky says makes sense. I know it is not the same, but my neighbour runs. She is religious at it. Every morning 5:00 Am she is up and out of the house by 5:30 am. For a few days she runs at a certain pace and then longer miles. Mid week is hammer time for her where she challenges herself with less miles. Recovery for her is a bike ride in between the days that she doesn't run. And Sundays she is up early and runs 30km.

Does Peter ride to work and back home on the road bike - I assume? I think leaving super early for a long ride in would be good. Just hope that chamois absorbs and he carries an extra diaper with him for the ride home.

If this Peter guy needs help with shipping to give him extra time to train, tell him I am free Monday and Tuesday to pick up stuff that needs to go to the post orfiface for him on Wednesdays if he is local.:rolleyes:

Is there any other training other than riding road, dirt and spin classes? Or is this Peter guy running too? Remember top it up with good nutrition too, as this is super important too... don't forget to eat that Weetbix in the morning... if you can't find any here, Budgie will ship some from Oz.

Good luck to the Peter Parker Poppins Pickle Pepper dude. :D Tell him Singlespeed Mysty is cheering him on!;)

[davkatreb]

Yeah, the dude probably has no time to waste f*cking around trying to raise a family. First things first.

[plume_mtb]

Yeah, the dude probably has no time to waste f*cking around trying to raise a family. First things first.

Why do you even post here?

seriously.

[real_ss_budgie]

i think your mate is taking it way too serious now...give me some time and ill wack up some PS wizardry to compliment this thread.

or you could tell him to work half the hours like me..its fuggin chumpy mate..struggle to get to kansas but still...

[nogearshere]

Yeah, the dude probably has no time to waste f*cking around trying to raise a family. First things first.

in the word(s) of my other friend Napoleon...iiidiot...

[davkatreb]

in the word(s) of my other friend Napoleon...iiidiot...
Maybe. Or possibly I have the maturity to appreciate the reality of the man's situation, and thus do not fit in. And that's fine too.

The guy has responsibilities out the yingyang. He also wants to be a famous bicycle racer when he grows up. Welcome to my world.

But I'm not complaining. I made my bed, and so did he. The reality is that there are only 24 hours in a day. I don't get to ride near as much as I'd like. It's a tradeoff I'm willing to accept, though. I've got a great home life, a solid marriage to the woman I'm still crazy about after more than 25 years, a well adjusted kid plus I dig my job. Wouldn't trade it for all the podiums in the world.

And this is the currency which your friend may have to spend. He is, in effect, trying to take on another full-time job. Seems to me like he could stand to take a step back; maybe see what he already has and what he stands to lose.

[davkatreb]

Jeebus, did I sound alittle like Ward Cleaver up there^^^? F*ck, I AM old!

[davkatreb]

in the word(s) of my other friend Napoleon...iiidiot...
That reminds me-I passed a dude on a Dissey t'other day. I asked him how he liked it. He said he wished he'd kept his Huffy.

[real_ss_budgie]

get some bacon and eggs into ya davo!!!!

mate its fuggin early

[davkatreb]

get some bacon and eggs into ya davo!!!!

mate its fuggin early
Crikey, tell me about it, kid. But this is my little bit of "me time".

I can hear my wife breathing in our bedroom down the hall. My daughter is sleeping in the next room. The cats are purring away on the sofa next to this computer. Truly, I am surrounded by love.

Podiums?

[phlatlander]

Podiums?

If Petey wants to see & feel the podium girls, he needs patches. Lots and lots of nut patches.

[tryandgetme]

That reminds me-I passed a dude on a Dissey t'other day. I asked him how he liked it. He said he wished he'd kept his Huffy.

I thought you were the only guy that rode a bike where you are...

[myron]

That reminds me-I passed a dude on a Dissey t'other day. I asked him how he liked it. He said he wished he'd kept his Huffy.
New plan, new goal. Fixgear off-road on the entire white is no longer enough.

I want a Huffy full-squish 21 speed. Mount and orange flag on a fiberglass pole, some kind of styrofoam Bell helmet, lay in wait at the bottom of the ROUGHEST climbs on the trail.

[nogearshere]

I thought you were the only guy that rode a bike where you are...

well the whole comment was over the top...like he actually spoke to someone...and they spoke back...phffff...

[phlatlander]

New plan, new goal. I want a Huffy full-squish 21 speed. Mount and orange flag on a fiberglass pole, some kind of styrofoam Bell helmet, lay in wait at the bottom of the ROUGHEST climbs on the trail.

Lay in wait to show approaching cyclists that you can clean it? Or lie (on the ground) in wait at the bottom to make it appear like you chunked the downhill & need LifeFlight? Either way could get some good response.

[myron]

Lay in wait to show approaching cyclists that you can clean it? Or lie (on the ground) in wait at the bottom to make it appear like you chunked the downhill & need LifeFlight? Either way could get some good response.

Mainly for anyone pushing a yellow GF up the hill, but I'm flexible.

[davkatreb]

I thought you were the only guy that rode a bike where you are...
No, I'm the only guy who lives in this town who rides fixed. There's a 20 mile paved rail trail and a major cycling destination right out my back door, as in, folks (including the DR staff) come from miles around to ride here. On a warm sunny day you can't go ten feet without seeing another bike. God, how it makes me long for January.

[davkatreb]

well the whole comment was over the top...like he actually spoke to someone...and they spoke back...phffff...
Nah, actually I'm pretty congenial when I ain't at the computer, slinging ones and zeros back at other pinheads like me that ain't got nothing better to do.

[AM Radio]

God, how it makes me long for January.
I spoke to "god," earlier today and he said you like to sniff park benches and meat gaze on occasion. Also, he told me that you were a commercial electrician and you rode a fixed gear bike with no brakes. We laughed and had a meal that mixed no meat with milk and drank wine that you can buy next to the candles of the virgin mary of montezumas

[myron]

No, I'm the only guy who lives in this town who rides fixed. There's a 20 mile paved rail trail and a major cycling destination right out my back door, as in, folks (including the DR staff) come from miles around to ride here. On a warm sunny day you can't go ten feet without seeing another bike. God, how it makes me long for January.

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[davkatreb]

I spoke to "god," earlier today and he said you like to sniff park benches and meat gaze on occasion. Also, he told me that you were a commercial electrician and you rode a fixed gear bike with no brakes. We laughed and had a meal that mixed no meat with milk and drank wine that you can buy next to the candles of the virgin mary of montezumas
Actually, I like to bunny hop park benches. After which, I pretty much just look like raw meat. Just how much wine did you guys have?

[davkatreb]

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Wassamatter, couldn't find a book about Oscar?

[myron]

Wassamatter, couldn't find a book about Oscar?

No mistake
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[real_ss_budgie]

i think your mate is taking it way too serious now...give me some time and ill wack up some PS wizardry to compliment this thread.

or you could tell him to work half the hours like me..its fuggin chumpy mate..struggle to get to kansas but still...
you so full of shit mate!!