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50 Mission Cap
06-07-2007, 09:11 PM
Listening to Black 47's song about Michael Collins.... the originaly IRA guy. Classic. Am reading a book on Bobby Sands - the IRA member who starved himself for 65 days in protest of British treatment of IRA prisoners. Heavy sh*t man. Any another militant irishmen out there in the mtb community?
yeah buddy, visited the land a couple years ago, just finished an irish lit class, which was amazing. irish history is always fascinating. i recommend taking a look at irish mythology, cuchulainn and finn mccumhail. better than your roman or greek myths if you ask me
S. cerevisiae
06-08-2007, 02:08 AM
Leon Uris' Trinity. One of those fiction-based-in-fact works that can help illuminate the plight of N. Ireland.
I don't condone their tactics in any way, but I sympathize for the IRA, and my ancestry is based in England and northern Scotland.
rockhound
06-08-2007, 04:21 PM
The funny thing is, many Americans who claim Irish heritage are in fact Scots-Irish (Ulsterman), and are the not be confused with the Irish.
Many of these Ulster families left the bloody borderlands of Scotland and England, only to find more turmoil in Ireland, and then came to America.
It's these Scots-Irish who were looked down upon by the English aristocrats. The English had the good fertile coastal lands while the tough and poor Scots-Irish got pushed back into the hills (or were purposely placed there in some instances, PA for example) to be a buffer between the Indians and the English.
And the mainstream cultures still looks down upon this Scots-Irish society...today we call them rednecks or hillbillies.
phlatlander
06-08-2007, 04:28 PM
And the mainstream cultures still looks down upon this Scots-Irish society...today we call them rednecks or hillbillies.
I actually look up to them. Like G.K. Willie.
Got some good music outta them hills, too.
myron
06-08-2007, 04:32 PM
The funny thing is, many Americans who claim Irish heritage are in fact Scots-Irish (Ulsterman), and are the not be confused with the Irish.
Many of these Ulster families left the bloody borderlands of Scotland and England, only to find more turmoil in Ireland, and then came to America.
It's these Scots-Irish who were looked down upon by the English aristocrats. The English had the good fertile coastal lands while the tough and poor Scots-Irish got pushed back into the hills (or were purposely placed there in some instances, PA for example) to be a buffer between the Indians and the English.
And the mainstream cultures still looks down upon this Scots-Irish society...today we call them rednecks or hillbillies.
Them be the ones with the red hair?
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