skewers?

[1mystk]

so my dilema as of late is my skewers on my front wheels always getting loose when I ride...

I thought it was because I don't tighten enough - or too much?

I took the SS out yesterday and same thing with the rear and front wheel...

even when the skewer is tightened you can see the wheel is still a bit shakey... ever so slight, but when I ride I can hear the wheel and feel it... so I have to take wheel off and put back on and make sure it is in place and tighten the skewer again... and then the wheel is fine ... until I start riding for a about 10 minutes and then I can feel it...

I have had a few of the guys I ride with tighten it for me and it was okay... till I have to take the front wheel off again and put it back on?

what am I doing wrong? and if the cane creek skewer is kaka...is there something else that I can replace them with that may be betterer??

I have already lost the front wheel going over a log... I was lucky in the past that I didn't get hurt... but that time I swear it was tight enough and secure...

my friend andrew said that the skewers were a piece of crap and to replace them... ok... so with what?

[bdee]

Get some good old shimano skewers - sounds like you maybe have the bushing type of skewer that wears out. Or just get those bolt on skewers.

[rockyrider]

Are these the Cane Creek skewers you're using?

17648

or do they look like these?

17649

When a skewer is tight there should be no movement of the wheel, the skewers should be closed hard enough to leave an imprint on your palm.

Shimano skewers (http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=854&category=161) do lock down well.

[1mystk]

yes those are the ones... they came with the cane creek wheels I have...


so a skewer is a skewer is a skewer? doesn't matter what wheels you have? just asking a dumb question...

[rockyrider]

No, skewers are different and use different clamping and cam mechanisms. Those Cane Creeks look like they don't have much "throw" or loose/tight ratio. The other skewers are like the previous vintage of Cane Creek skewers which had a greater loose/tight ratio. That can make the lever harder to close but it puts more tension on the axle when it's closed.

The Salsa and Cane Creek skewers and others that use the eccentric cam and an exposed bushing surface really need a big loose/tight ratio on the cam to lock effectively as the tension is all that keeps them closed.

Something like the Shimano with the cam inside the end piece that the lever attaches to are less prone to opening when the wheel has leverage on the fork legs.

The FSA Scatto use a lock to keep them closed once you set a tension that allows them to close solidly.

17652 (http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=5407&category=161)

And these DT Swiss Skewers actually tighten the skewer rather than relyting on a cam, so it's a bit like having a built in wrench.

17653 (http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=16374&category=161)

With disc brakes especially there's lots of extra force trying to rotate the wheel out of the dropouts, so a skookum skewer is a good idea.

[1mystk]

With disc brakes especially there's lots of extra force trying to rotate the wheel out of the dropouts, so a skookum skewer is a good idea.

ok Rocky ... so where do I get me some of these skookum skewers?

[rockyrider]

ok Rocky ... so where do I get me some of these skookum skewers?I've linked the images to the source... clever guy that I am... clicky clicky

[Johnny]

Also, make sure your hubs are adjusted properly. A loose hub can feel a lot like a loose skewer. As skewers go, I am a big fan of those FSAs, and the Salsas are pretty sweet too. Your local shop could happily get you either.

[jayhawk73]

I saw some of those DT Swiss ratchet skewers in person the other day. they are pretty awesome and damn near idiot proof. You can really get them tight and you don't have to worry about folding the arm back, you just push the red button and spin the arm where you want then push the arm in.

[mcstark]

I've used the Salsa's for years with no issues. I concur that you should check out the hubs to make sure things are in working order.

And the imprint on the palm rule is golden. You should have a clear outline of the lever on your palm after you close it.

Best wishes and report back. Thanks!

[Family Guy]

What fork are you running? A steel fork is much harder than the typical aluminium or magnesium suspension fork drop out, making it harder for the skewer to "bite" into the drop out. Hubs without serrated axle ends also don't gain much purchase on a steel fork. I'm not sure if Cane Creek hubs have serrations or not.

Try Shimano skewers. You or someone you know has a set laying about. You might never go back to the external cam type.

[A-Town]

I highly recommend the DT Swiss skewers.

[1mystk]

I've linked the images to the source... clever guy that I am... clicky clicky

clicky click barba trick... oops Rocky, I didn't notice that...:o

well when Noggy gets back from his adventures he can check my hub, cause I ain't got a clue...

imprint on the palm... yes duly noted...

but what the heck it don't hurt to see if it is the skewers...

to answer the question about the fork? it is the standard misfit psycles fork - aluminum... after all it is a misfit psycles diSSent (http://psyclestore.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_49&products_id=158) I ride;)

[tryandgetme]

a broken axle feels like a cracked fork if you've got a shimano hub. somewhat unrelated

if you've got misfit hubs, they're probably ok. you can't be beating on them worse than I am...

sorry noggs, those skewers you sell with your hubs are a little cheesy. I had the same problem, replaced the skewer and it feels better. Now just sell us a solid axle kit for em!

The rest of the hub though: you won't break it.

[1mystk]

a broken axle feels like a cracked fork if you've got a shimano hub. somewhat unrelated

if you've got misfit hubs, they're probably ok. you can't be beating on them worse than I am...

sorry noggs, those skewers you sell with your hubs are a little cheesy. I had the same problem, replaced the skewer and it feels better. Now just sell us a solid axle kit for em!

The rest of the hub though: you won't break it.

I am running the cane creek zonos disc 29 (http://www.canecreek.com/zonos_disc_29.html?&L=0%22%20onfocus%3D%22blurLink%28this%29 %3B%22%20onfocus%3D%22blurLink%28this%29 %3B%22%20onfocus%3D%22blurLink%28this%29 %3B%22%20onfocus%3D%22blurLink%28this%29 %3B)... so whatever hubs come with those...

[FishMan]

if you really can't get the quick release thing to work try the IRD Platinum skewers. I just got some and they are really well made, stiff, light and theft resistant.

The Delta axle rods are a cheap alternative which I would not put on an MTB, i have broken too many of them on my townie bikes to dare try that.

[bitterfish26]

about the hubs i had a loose hub on the back of my DJ bike. I was thinking wow already wore out the hub or bearings? no it was just loose and i quick tightening fixed it right up