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robcycle
11-20-2007, 03:03 AM
I picked up a Monocog 29er (http://www.redlinebicycles.com/adultbikes/monocog-29er.html) the other day. I took it for a ride and was quite pleased. For comparison, I was riding a rigged SS, and I now realize how well it didn't work :rolleyes:

The two elements that are being reviewed here are the bike itself, and the 29" wheels. First the wheels. I've spent a fair bit of time off road with cross tires on a converted road bike. That bigger wheels roll over things easier is no suprise to me. However, the added volume of the 2.3" tires compared to the 38c cross tires I was used to was an eye opener. I no longer had to worry so much about pinch flatting, I could just bash on through. That being said, the bike did allow a good amount of finess. There were several times that I lofted the front tire over something only to set it down exactly where I wanted and take off in that direction. It was quite a feeling.

I have heard before that 29ers are not suited to tight, twisty singletrack. Bullocks to this. It is just a different style of riding. If you jump on a 29er for the first time directly from a 26er and expect to be proficient, well, you're a fool. An appropriate analogy can be made from the car world. The corvette and the miata on a tight road course. If one is used to driving the miata, and then tries the corvette, it will seem big and piggish. However, with some seat time, one will become proficient, and will be almost as quick. The 29er is the same way. In the first half mile of trails I was overshooting turns and generally feeling like a labrador puppy tripping up the stairs. A mile or so down the trails, things changed, and I was going much faster than on the 26" bike (possibly due to the same gearing on larger wheels), and I was handling the bike. I wasn't just steering and hoping like before. I was confidently flying down the trails and the bike was doing exactly as I wanted.

Descending, no problem. I actually felt confident enough on the big wheels to attempt (and clear) some small drops that I had been too chicken to try before. Rock gardens were tamed, as well. What really surprised me was the bike's climbing ability. It cleared with ease climbs that had stalled the 26er. A root or rock ledge in the middle of the climb? Not a problem, just lift the front wheel over and when the rear hits, unweight it and keep pedaling. The sticky tires hook, and you keep going.

At one point on the trail I ended up behind a distracted hiker. There wasn't much room to pass, so I rode queitly, and slowly behind him. As we approached a hill I had never cleared the end of, I prepared to dismount, but thought better of it. It ended up that I climbed the hill I had never cleared, at a walking pace, and it felt easy. I think the hiker soiled his shorts when I said a polite "excuse me" a quarter mile down the trail from when I started following him. Oh yeah, the bike is quiet.

One of the things I like about it, other than those already mentioned, is that its disc ready. For me, that means it is ready to go when I want to bolt a fixed cog to it :) , and I can throw a BB7 up front when I get the money. If I was forced to say some things I don't like it would be that the second waterbottle mount is under the down tube. Oh, that and the headset was loose, but I would say that was the shop. It was nice because when I stopped to tighten it I thought "well, I'd better put that stem under those spacers", and then the bike fit like a glove. :D Also, I felt like I needed additional hand positions for climbing. I think I'm going to pick up some cheap bar ends as an intermediate measure until it gets a Midge or Mungo. Oh, and a bash ring.

Oh, and a quick story. Perhaps one of the best experiences I've had in a while ... While fixing the headset a group of riders stopped to rest and chat. They were 35-45yo and all on $1-3K FS rigs. Two of them appeared to be seasoned veterans, and the other two said they had just gotten back into biking. After the chat they offered for me to join their group. I declined and said I would give them a few minutes and take up the rear. On one of the longer climbs I ended up passing the born-agains and then their mentors at the top. I carried on riding and got to the end of the trail and rested. A few minutes later, the senior riders showed up. We chatted it up for a bit and one of them called riding SS the "Pain Train". A little while later, a winded rider came pushing his bike up the hill. After he caught his breath, he started chatting it up. After a minute he got a puzzled look on his face and was staring at my rear triangle. "How many gears does that thing have?", he asked. I looked at the bike, smiled, looked at him, and held up one finger. "HOLY SH!T! ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?" was his response, then something about having 27 gears and not being able to do it, how was it done with one. Well, his immediate reaction was what made my day. :D

All in all, an incredibly fun bike for very little cash :cool:

-Rob.

wigger thomas
11-20-2007, 12:06 PM
I've had my Flight 29er for about 2 1/2 weeks now. Got it for 950.00 w/ tax. I didn't want to mess around with v-brakes. The wheels are a bit nicer.The steel is differant. I'll be honest though. I think the V-brake version is a little better deal. But the Flight is still a damn good deal. http://www.redlinebicycles.com/adultbikes/monocog-flight-29er.html

The tires[Maxis Ignitors] are suppposed to be only a 2.1 but seem a bit bigger. There is not much clearance for a much bigger tire which is a slight disapointment.

I find the bike to be very agile in tight,twisty stuff. As with all SS's it gives me a bit of trouble in twisty climbs when I don't get a chance to wind it up first. I am a Clydesdale though.

The way it rolls over logpiles is ridiculous. Of course the one chain ring and big wheels give you a higher bb clearance. A log pile is a much smaller portion of the wheels rotation than with a 26" wheeled bike. There is one log pile where they cross from differant directions that I wacked my knee getting oover last season. It is not even a challenge w/ the 29" wheels.

I would like to go tubeless eventually which will give me a bit more shock absorption and traction. I'm running 40 psi to avoid flats now. Also,I see alt handlebars in my future thanks to the Old Coot.

Had to go to a differant LBS for the Redline. They're a cool shop though. My down the street guys carry Trek,Fisher,Lemond in working people bikes. I begged them for over 2 years to bring in a steel 29 SS but none of their brands make one yet. Oh well.

I was initiallly disappointed that the '07 green was sold out. I've learned to love the blue though. And the letters are in the paint tooo which is extra cool. The brake cable scratched the head tube which is a small bummer. So it goes. Overall it's been a great bike in the early stages.

rockhound
11-20-2007, 02:34 PM
I've had my Flight 29er for about 2 1/2 weeks now. Got it for 950.00 w/ tax. I didn't want to mess around with v-brakes. The wheels are a bit nicer.The steel is differant. I'll be honest though. I think the V-brake version is a little better deal. But the Flight is still a damn good deal. http://www.redlinebicycles.com/adultbikes/monocog-flight-29er.html


The Flight is welded in Japan with Sanko (?) steel, the v-brake Monocog is a product of China.

wigger thomas
11-20-2007, 07:07 PM
Yeah,I doubt I could tell the differance in frame material from the ride. Feels like steel.
Japan is pretty' evil too.

I wonder if the v-brake model has more tire clearance?

robcycle
11-21-2007, 12:08 PM
I wonder if the v-brake model has more tire clearance?It comes stock with 2.3's (52/50), and ,IIRC, the Flight comes with 2.1's. That being said, there is not much room for more tire in the back. I don't recall looking at the front, but I'm about to go for a ride, so maybe I'll check ;)

Also, last night I got a set of barends and bolted a cog to the hub, so we'll see how she does after the salpingo-oo-hysterectomy :p

-Rob.

wigger thomas
11-21-2007, 02:37 PM
Also, last night I got a set of barends and bolted a cog to the hub, so we'll see how she does after the salpingo-oo-hysterectomy :p

-Rob.

You fixed it?

robcycle
11-22-2007, 05:43 PM
You fixed it?
Yup. I didn't get a ride though :( I was riding the franken'ed 26 SS and kinda fell the wrong way on the hill. Sprained my ankle pretty bad. I hope to be riding next week though :D

-Rob.

S. cerevisiae
11-25-2007, 10:48 AM
I would like to go tubeless eventually which will give me a bit more shock absorption and traction. I'm running 40 psi to avoid flats now.

I made the same misstake. I was running the 2.3" WTB 'Raptors at 35 psig for the same reason. I'm a 200+ lb. rider, and at the advice of fellow clydesdale,Maurice, allowed around 7 psig to escape and have better traction, lots of cush, and NO pinch flat issues. I wouldn't hesitate on running it down to 25 psig.

Tubeless and twinglespeed also appear in my future on mine.

robcycle
11-25-2007, 02:11 PM
... twinglespeed ... Is that in the same familiy as dinglespeed? :p

Oh, and the front fork looks like it will clear a much larger tire. The rear looks pretty tight between the chainstays. One might be able to go up to a 2.4, but I doubt a 2.5. But then again, you might be able to work something out by moving the wheel back and forth.

-Rob.

wigger thomas
11-25-2007, 02:26 PM
I made the same misstake. I was running the 2.3" WTB 'Raptors at 35 psig for the same reason. I'm a 200+ lb. rider, and at the advice of fellow clydesdale,Maurice, allowed around 7 psig to escape and have better traction, lots of cush, and NO pinch flat issues. I wouldn't hesitate on running it down to 25 psig.

Tubeless and twinglespeed also appear in my future on mine.

Yeah. I haven't flatted yet. Maybe I'll give 35 a shot.

rockhound
11-26-2007, 02:51 PM
Japan is pretty' evil too.


Yep, that's why there's GODZEERA!

wigger thomas
11-26-2007, 05:24 PM
Here's someone on one at Sunday's race

longhaultruker2
01-23-2008, 06:48 PM
i really,REALLY want one!!!

congrads,rob.hope yer lovin it so far (sounds like ya are),and hope yer ankle heals quick!i know if'n i hadda new m'cog 29er,it'd kill me (put near literally)to hafta sit and look at it!

enjoyed yer reveiw,but how's bout some pix?ain't you went to wally-mart and bought a $40 digicam yet?:p

robcycle
01-23-2008, 08:31 PM
Nope, no camera yet. :(

The ankle is healed, as well. I've been on a few rides recently, but mostly on the fixed cross bike. There just aren't enough hours, or or hours of sunlight, in a day. If you ever get down Richmond way, you're welcome to take it for a spin and I'll show you some local trails, and bars :p Well, that offer really goes out to all you guys.

So yeah, still love the bike :cool:

-Rob.

S. cerevisiae
01-23-2008, 10:53 PM
I've finally gotten my 'cog converted to a Duocog 29er. Running 32x20 (Endless 20T cog) and 36x16 (Rennen 16T and Blackspire 36T CR). Chainline issues I was haveing when I used this as my commuter at 32&42x20 are gone, and I picked up @ 4 gear-inches.

Gotta get some pics uploaded...

longhaultruker2
01-23-2008, 11:44 PM
Gotta get some pics uploaded...

please do...we all love bike-porn:),'specially 1 speeders and 29ers:D

thanx rob.check yer pm on a return invite:)