How hard is your core?

[K-Man]

At 5' 10" and 148lbs. I'm not a stereotypical gym rat, but I do use strength training, especially for my "core". For the over-50 crowd, keeping the abs and back muscles toned really helps with endurance, not to mention riding free from back pain. :D

I thought I'd ask yinz to share any favorite core exercises. I'll get the ball rolling....

Speaking of ball, I do several exercises atop a big inflatible "stability ball" including:
- sit ups
- crunches
- back raises
- side raises
- oblique sit ups
- push ups in plank position (with feet up on the ball)

Without the ball, on the mat:
- leg raises
- planks
- side planks
- oblique sit ups with legs doing a "pedaling motion"

With core-specific gym equipment:
- sit ups with weight on the sit-up machine
- oblique sit ups with weight on the sit-up machine
- crunches without weight on the crunch machine
- back and side raises on the machine that holds your feet while you double over
- Leg raises on the machine that supports your forearms and lets your feet dangle off the ground

With universal gym machine:
- wood chopper, pulling downward motion while twisting torso, both left and right side
- pull starter (pulling up on the handle, like your starting a lawn mower)

Pull ups (overhand grip, not reversed grip chin ups).

Not all in one session, mind you, but having many options lets me vary the routine different days.

[Hand/of/Midas]

ive heard that doing push ups with your feet elevated works your abs just as much as crunches. sounds good to me, 2 birds with one exercise.

my fav is laying on your back with a ball in your hands over your head, then crunching and pinching it between your feet, then extending back down with out touching the ground, then back up and into hands, repeat.

i mostly like the having a 6-pack part.

[davkatreb]

I've heard it's good to stretch before you ride, so I like to stretch by reaching for two or three beers. That way I'm hydrated, too!:D

But seriously, I've found that the best way to keep yourself in good riding condition is to ride.

[K-Man]

ive heard that doing push ups with your feet elevated works your abs just as much as crunches. sounds good to me, 2 birds with one exercise.

my fav is laying on your back with a ball in your hands over your head, then crunching and pinching it between your feet, then extending back down with out touching the ground, then back up and into hands, repeat.

i mostly like the having a 6-pack part.

Yeah the elevated push ups works the hell out of your back and abs.

That "hand to feet ball passing" exercise is a good one!!! Thanks.

[Mo0se]

My core is not all that hard, but is sh0re
is big. :D

[xjoex]

Well I do the gym 3 times a week and do this routine:

1. superset of dumbbell bench and wide flies 3 x 10 each, no breaks.

2. dumbbell press and floor punches (don't know the real names..) 3 x 10 reps, no breaks.

3. Preacher curls, dumbell tricep extensions 3 x 10, no breaks.

4. Reverse curls, wrist curls 3 x 10 no breaks.

5. Hyperextensions with weight on a 45* bench, some call them good mornings.., then left side, then right, back to the middle.... 3 x 25 each.

6. Wide Grip Pull downs 3 x 10

7. 50/50s these kill and rock at the same time! lay down, hand behind your head, raise you legs and kick 50 times, then bring your legs in and do 50 crunches, then 40/40, 30/30... till 0.

Thats my non aerobic exercise, I do it 3 times a week.

On the bike I ride 7 days a week, usually take a rest day once a month and I occasionally run.

And I keep track of it, for no reason:
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h85/boulderjoe/piechart.png

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h85/boulderjoe/average.png

This makes me sound way more serious than I am.
-Joe

[Hand/of/Midas]

This makes me sound way more serious than I am.
-Joe

so what your saying is you only going to try to win 6 TDF's not 7?

[dangerousdave]

I've heard it's good to stretch before you ride, so I like to stretch by reaching for two or three beers. That way I'm hydrated, too!:D

But seriously, I've found that the best way to keep yourself in good riding condition is to ride.

Cranky comic! When you goin to come to LV so I can drink your walnut-kidneys under the table and tell bigger lies than you've ever imagined?

But Hay, I reach after the ride, I suck enough w/out handicappin meself with self inflicted loss of balance coordination, droolin etc. etc....
Hmmm stretchin..... need t do it more....

[K-Man]

This makes me sound way more serious than I am.
-Joe

You can say that again, the lack of heart rate data is amateurish. ;)

[K-Man]

I've heard it's good to stretch before you ride, so I like to stretch by reaching for two or three beers. That way I'm hydrated, too!:D

But seriously, I've found that the best way to keep yourself in good riding condition is to ride.

Aaaaah, yes, the 12 ounce curls.:D

Yep, hard to beat riding to get you in shape for riding. But I find that total body conditioning on top of riding, has taken my biking to another level. Maybe I'm worthless and weak, but some days my legs need to take a rest (or cut back on their mileage) and that gives me the opportunity to go the gym and get a good workout while the legs recover.

[1mystk]

I've heard it's good to stretch before you ride, so I like to stretch by reaching for two or three beers. That way I'm hydrated, too!:D

But seriously, I've found that the best way to keep yourself in good riding condition is to ride.

I do agree with you there DAV... I found riding my rigid bike has increased core strength by at least 20%.

I already have a base from martial arts training which focused on core strength... lots of crunches and such...

recently when I took a few sessions with a personal trainer and we used the bosu ball... it was great... I noticed a difference after a few weeks...

but I also use this core video... I know, you guys won't want to sit through a session like this... but it does work!!!

[davkatreb]

Cranky comic! When you goin to come to LV so I can drink your walnut-kidneys under the table and tell bigger lies than you've ever imagined?

But Hay, I reach after the ride, I suck enough w/out handicappin meself with self inflicted loss of balance coordination, droolin etc. etc....
Hmmm stretchin..... need t do it more....
Well you know I'd love to come out and put the "sin" in Sin City, but those long road trips are so hard on us old folks. And since the Bureau of Fatherland Security wont let me have my carry on half gallon of Wild Turkey, flying don't look so good neither. Besides, the desert sun ain't the best thing in the world for my liver spots.

"Bigger lies"? I don't see it happening, Skippy. Little known fact about us codgers-The older we get, the better we were. Shouldn't let that stop you from trying, though. But tell you what-If you ever make it out this way, bring your bike. Key'll be under the doormat and I can promise you some of the sweetest singletrack you'll ever see.

And if I was bothered about how bad I suck as a rider I'd have quit years ago. The fun's in the tryin', a-right?

[davkatreb]

martial arts training
Girlfriend, we need to talk! Not to be a pest (well maybe just this once:D) but did you know that fixed gear is the Kung Fu Ninja Zen of cycling?














Of course you did.:cool:

[1mystk]

Girlfriend, we need to talk! Not to be a pest (well maybe just this once:D) but did you know that fixed gear is the Kung Fu Ninja Zen of cycling?













Of course you did.:cool:


well then DAV, let's talk... over a beer or two or three:D


all I could here in the background after I read this was the song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJQu97_Xwiw)...;)

[wigger thomas]

I'm personally against extensive routines. Here's my firehouse workout:

4 sets bench press
200 crunches
3 sets pull downs
3 sets seated rows
3 triceps
3 curls.

In between the first 6-8 sets of lifting I do yoga postures.[killer core stuff]

Forward bend
Cobra
Locust
Bow
Triangle
Upside down stuff like headstand or shoulderstand.[one or the other] While in a headstand I do a bit of low back stretching and hamstring stretching.

On days off:
Post ride pre beer favorite is the headstand bong hit:cool: Let's the blood run back out of the legs.

[K-Man]

Firehouse workout is hot stuff. Thanks for sharing.

[mimbresman]

My middle is marshmellowy soft...

(but since I ride full rigid and sometimes hardtail, I do try to keep my abs and back in good shape for riding...mainly by stretching)

[cMc]

I think core is really important. I do either 2x or 3x a week (together with yoga and weights), with running on the other days. It just helps for everything.

I'm going to try the elevated foot pushups. Thanks for that tip, Midas!

[plume_mtb]

I just ride my single speed for 50+ miles at a time. There's your all body work out.

I hate the gym, but I'll be hitting it up soon enough. :(

[wigger thomas]

Firehouse workout is hot stuff. Thanks for sharing.
I have sort of a budding extended theory that I call Fire Fighter Fitness. I can see someone beating me to the punch writing the book on Yoga between sets of lifting.

I learned a lot of Yoga from Richard Hittleman who was once California's TV yoga instructor. He's got a ton of books out and he also understands the east Indian philosophy. It's not YMCA yoga.

I've discovered this year on my own that while in a headstand you can really stretch each hamstring out individually while also working on balance and stimulating the abs. Also,you can do sort of a bow thing w/o the string and hit the low back really well.

[K-Man]

I have sort of a budding extended theory that I call Fire Fighter Fitness. I can see someone beating me to the punch writing the book on Yoga between sets of lifting.

I learned a lot of Yoga from Richard Hittleman who was once California's TV yoga instructor. He's got a ton of books out and he also understands the east Indian philosophy. It's not YMCA yoga.

I've discovered this year on my own that while in a headstand you can really stretch each hamstring out individually while also working on balance and stimulating the abs. Also,you can do sort of a bow thing w/o the string and hit the low back really well.

Thanks for the Hittleman tip, gunna hafta see if I can score a book of his on Amazon or elswhere. I'd love to work in some yoga (and not the type of person to join a class and contort my skinny wrinkled body in front of others).

In the meantime, if you know of any web links to his stuff or other yoga instructions, fire away (pun intended).:D

[1mystk]

I'm personally against extensive routines. Here's my firehouse workout:

4 sets bench press
200 crunches
3 sets pull downs
3 sets seated rows
3 triceps
3 curls.

In between the first 6-8 sets of lifting I do yoga postures.[killer core stuff]

Forward bend
Cobra
Locust
Bow
Triangle

interestingly enough, since K-Man mentions HOT STUFF... there is HOT YOGA (http://www.hotyogakingston.com/) ...

[Marticus]

I have a few core techniques I use in my fitness class. A few of them are real old-school, and some I came up with from some stuff I was studying on kinetics. Two in particular come to mind:


Place a medicine ball on the ground in front of you and then simply reach down with arms fully extended and pick it up, raising it back over your head. Then, without bending your arms, bring it back and throw it straight down at the ground right in front of you as hard as you can. While you don't want to risk injuring your back, the first part of this exercise is kind of like a dead lift -- so your power transfer will be through your hamstrings up into your core, and then the finishing throw, because you are keeping straight arms, will draw almost all of it's power from your abs and obliques. Essentially, all you are doing is picking a ball up and throwing it at the ground, but you'll be really surprised how quickly this wipes you out.

Another one I actually stole from the Minnesota Vikings trainers. I read about this online -- it's pure core and it's the most difficult exercise I've ever come across. Take a balance ball and straddle out as if you're going to do push-ups with your legs on it. But instead of extending all the way out with legs straight, keep your legs wrapped on the ball (kind of like a frog stretch -- the ball should be between your legs like, well, a giant ball :eek:.) Now comes the hard part -- plank your upper body and do a shoulder raise with a dumbbell (keep the weight really light -- five pounds is plenty) with one hand while keeping the other on the ground to hold you up. Once you have the weight up to eye level, rotate it out-ward. (From the ground up, the weight should move in a path that traces half of a "T".) You should hold the weight in a hammer curl position. Do five slow and controlled reps on each side and continue until you have to stop. The amount of concentration this exercise takes just to keep you balance is intense. The only way to keep from falling is to completely lock your abs -- if you drop your lower back, you'll fall right away -- but if you only focus on that, you'll tip because your support hand will slip. I've seen people do this without any weight at all and only be able to do two or three before falling, so when you do it, make sure you're on a pad or else you could get hurt.

If anyone tries this second one, I'd be very interested to know how it feels. I've never met anyone who could do this consistently without falling, so if anyone can do that, just know you're core is pretty solid already!

[wigger thomas]

Thanks for the Hittleman tip, gunna hafta see if I can score a book of his on Amazon or elswhere. I'd love to work in some yoga (and not the type of person to join a class and contort my skinny wrinkled body in front of others).

In the meantime, if you know of any web links to his stuff or other yoga instructions, fire away (pun intended).:D
I guess you can buy dvd's.

http://www.richardhittlemanyogatv.com/

"Introduction to Yoga" was a pretty good title. A was the one that I think was called 'the 8 step path to yoga'. Let me look around. Maybe I have one laying around. I used to buy them cheap at used book stores.

[1mystk]

I can't believe how many people do yoga now... I know it is a good form of meditation as well... focus...

damn... now I must go to this HOT yoga class my friend is raving about!

[wigger thomas]

I can't believe how many people do yoga now... I know it is a good form of meditation as well... focus...

damn... now I must go to this HOT yoga class my friend is raving about!

To me,the 'hot' thing does not seem needed. I get my metabolism ripping on the bike. Yes,I can raise my heart rate w/ yoga if I want. But it's really only a component of my physical well being. It is about strength and balance.

I think the subject of Chakras is a vital one. I would be a bit wary of recent new age type authors or programs. This stuff has been laid out for thousands of years already. It is essentially seven little wheels of energy running up your spine. Each one choresponds to a level of human activity. From survival at the base,healing at the level of the heart[anahata chakra]to intellectual energy in the third eye[ajna]and cosmic consciousness at your crown[Sahasrara ]. I like to run my consciousness through these points while meditating. More on this later if the yoga interest is still around.[I'll be digging up real sources]

[poison idea]

came up with the alcoholocaust maximum health program last year while going through some bad times

1 Wake up Drunk
2 While still drunk, go Mtn Biking for 2 hours -burning off the booze/taking the edge off the hangover
3 Killer ab workout via vomitting incessantly
4 Commute to work
5 Tremble like a leaf at the thought of eating anything while at work
6 Play kickball with retarded children for an hour
7 Eventually gobble down some veggies
8 Ride home
9 Drink a bottle of Beam
10 Repeat

eventually i snapped out of my rut, but meanwhile i dropped 25 pounds, got my cardio way up and regained a 6pack. Self destructive, yet effective. Not for the faint of heart...

[1mystk]

To me,the 'hot' thing does not seem needed.

I like to run my consciousness through these points while meditating. More on this later if the yoga interest is still around.[I'll be digging up real sources]

Wiggy, not sure why they call it HOT yoga... my girlfriend told me it was quite good class...

I have taken yoga in the past, but my experience was not the best as te instructor was creepy... I know that is a poor exuse, but I need to feel comfortable when doing my exercise...

yoga interest is there... dig away:D

[rockyrider]

Isn't that the Keith Richards fitness and longevity program?
came up with the alcoholocaust maximum health program last year while going through some bad times

1 Wake up Drunk
2 While still drunk, go Mtn Biking for 2 hours -burning off the booze/taking the edge off the hangover
3 Killer ab workout via vomitting incessantly
4 Commute to work
5 Tremble like a leaf at the thought of eating anything while at work
6 Play kickball with retarded children for an hour
7 Eventually gobble down some veggies
8 Ride home
9 Drink a bottle of Beam
10 Repeat

eventually i snapped out of my rut, but meanwhile i dropped 25 pounds, got my cardio way up and regained a 6pack. Self destructive, yet effective. Not for the faint of heart...

[wigger thomas]

Wiggy, not sure why they call it HOT yoga... my girlfriend told me it was quite good class...

I have taken yoga in the past, but my experience was not the best as te instructor was creepy... I know that is a poor exuse, but I need to feel comfortable when doing my exercise...



If you're girlfriend likes it,then give it a shot. But don't feel like you need a hot room to do yoga. And if the class is once a week,practice a few days at home.

[mtnspider]

The gym I frequent has a machine that's a cross between a basketball arcade game and a decline bench.
You do a sit-up and throw a medicine ball into the chute, pick up another ball, and repeat. (I hope that makes sense.)
It's effective and a nice break from doing standard ab exercises.

[LeeMcGough]

Are Davkatreb, Moose and myself the only ones here who don't work out? If someone put a gun to my head, and said, "I will pull this f*ing trigger if you don't do a sit-up right now", I would beg for the bullet. Did way too much of that sh*t when I wrestled (long time ago). Any free time I have to myself will be spent riding, or on this forum. Not at the gym. Ever. Ever. Under any circumstances. Ever.

[FixedandProud]

I avoid the gym if possible. Lately, I've fallen into a routine of pushups, pullups, dips and of course riding supplemented with hiking and walking the dogs. I find the pushup/pullup/dip routine hits my core well enough that if I'm also riding I don't need to do any "ab" workouts.

[jtmtbiker]

I have gotten into a new work out device that has been around for a couple hundred years. Its new its fun and challenging. Also its Russian so you know its hardcore. They are expensive but, if you find a gym has them learn how to use them and you will be hooked. The other cool part is weight doesn't matter. Its about technique and keeping your body tight. You can integrate your cardio, weight, flexibility, and strength training into one workout. It is known as the Russian Kettle Bell.

Check it out (the swing is the base exercise)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLD6MXsflTQ

The user who posted this has a pretty extensive collection of exercises. There a lot of resources out there be somewhat selective. The father of the sport is Pavel Tsatsouline and his website is:

http://www.powerbypavel.com/

He is also into other fitness ideas found in his book the naked warrior.

[myron]

I have gotten into a new work out device that has been around for a couple hundred years. Its new its fun and challenging. Also its Russian so you know its hardcore. They are expensive but, if you find a gym has them learn how to use them and you will be hooked. The other cool part is weight doesn't matter. Its about technique and keeping your body tight. You can integrate your cardio, weight, flexibility, and strength training into one workout. It is known as the Russian Kettle Bell.

Check it out (the swing is the base exercise)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLD6MXsflTQ

The user who posted this has a pretty extensive collection of exercises. There a lot of resources out there be somewhat selective. The father of the sport is Pavel Tsatsouline and his website is:

http://www.powerbypavel.com/

He is also into other fitness ideas found in his book the naked warrior.

Another Russian thing, for those with enough "core" is called "ten sets" and can be applied to any workout. Take 50% of you workout and multiply X10. For my binches n' shit, I would go with 135lbs. It seems easy for the first 5 or 6 sets. Six to ten feels like an eternity...

[davkatreb]

Are Davkatreb, Moose and myself the only ones here who don't work out?
What the f*ck are you talking ab0ot, "don't work out"? Between the bikes and my work as a commercial elerctrician I get ab0ot all the exercise I need to keep fit, eh. Spend a day in my shoes. If you're still with me at suppertime I'll be surprised.

Hell, I'm 56 and I've yet to find a 20 year old that can keep up with me. I'm bending pipe, pulling wire an'at and all they want to do is f*ck off, the useless cocksuckers.

"Don't work 0ot"? Gyms are for people who sit on their ass all day, and that ain't me.

[K-Man]

The IBEW workout? ;)

What the f*ck are you talking ab0ot, "don't work out"? Between the bikes and my work as a commercial elerctrician I get ab0ot all the exercise I need to keep fit, eh. Spend a day in my shoes. If you're still with me at suppertime I'll be surprised.

Hell, I'm 56 and I've yet to find a 20 year old that can keep up with me. I'm bending pipe, pulling wire an'at and all they want to do is f*ck off, the useless cocksuckers.

"Don't work 0ot"? Gyms are for people who sit on their ass all day, and that ain't me.

[davkatreb]

The IBEW workout? ;)
Nope, never went union. I was starting to set all that in motion five years ago, then my beloved wife, The Beautiful Miss Kathy was nearly killed in a bad car wreck.

That sorta put things on the back burner for awhile. Now I've been about two years at a company I'd worked for about seven years ago and it's great. Feel like I've known the guys all my life, and my forman is as good as they come. The money ain't bad, neither. Nah, I doan' need no steenkin' IBEW.

[K-Man]

Wuz just a guess.

One of my bestest riding budz is a card-carryin IBEW lineman. From his stories, I'm sure that I'm one of those guys who wouldn't make it through my first day on the job.

"Here noob, haul this cable to the tippy top of that cel tower and hook it up."

"Uh, No thanks, I'll see ya later..... (sound of feet, on terra firma, exiting)"

Nope, never went union. I was starting to set all that in motion five years ago, then my beloved wife, The Beautiful Miss Kathy was nearly killed in a bad car wreck.

That sorta put things on the back burner for awhile. Now I've been about two years at a company I'd worked for about seven years ago and it's great. Feel like I've known the guys all my life, and my forman is as good as they come. The money ain't bad, neither. Nah, I doan' need no steenkin' IBEW.

[jtmtbiker]

I have no choice but to sit on my ass. I have opportunity to walk a good bit at work but that is the extent of it. I would hump all day if it paid out like it should. Humans where not designed to sit on our ass all day. You probably wouldn't want me wiring anything more than a socket or fixture anyway. I do claim to be a self certified master plumber. I estimate the savings in the thousands. Some of us are forced into a life of shame behind a desk slowly letting our (hu)manliness whither away.

So in order to compensate some of us schlubs go to a gym. In fact the gym I go to is pretty old school and hardcore. There is buckets strategically placed for catching the water when it rains as well as puke when you go hard. Its like a dungeon with windows.

[davkatreb]

I have no choice but to sit on my ass. I have opportunity to walk a good bit at work but that is the extent of it. I would hump all day if it paid out like it should. Humans where not designed to sit on our ass all day. You probably wouldn't want me wiring anything more than a socket or fixture anyway. I do claim to be a self certified master plumber. I estimate the savings in the thousands. Some of us are forced into a life of shame behind a desk slowly letting our (hu)manliness whither away.

So in order to compensate some of us schlubs go to a gym. In fact the gym I go to is pretty old school and hardcore. There is buckets strategically placed for catching the water when it rains as well as puke when you go hard. Its like a dungeon with windows.
Hey, nuthin' against you paper pushers. Someone has to take care of that shit so us men can get things done.:D*

"Self certified master plumber"? New one on me. How does that work?

*Kidding. KIDDING! My foreman spends the biggest part of his day sitting at the print table or walking the job. Can't remember the last time I saw a tool in his hand. And I'm glad.

See, Brian spends the day looking out for conflicts with other systems installed by other trades, ordering materials, staying up on all the change orders and a myriad of other crap. Meanwhile he tells me what he needs from me and more or less allows me the freedom to find the best way to get it done. He's got my back and I've got his.**

**F*ck, what was we talking about?

[jtmtbiker]

Self Certified is I have managed to fix most any plumbing problem myself even to the point of receiving an award in the army (as an MP) for plumbing a school in El Salvador for a humanitarian project.(Oh bye the way the US Military does that)(No media attention for that either?????). I have no formal training just bad luck and no money so I figured things out. Since then I certified myself. I dont do HVAC though well at least not yet.
I work in Law Enforcement now it has a good combo of things but nothing like TV. There is a lot of down time. It pays the bills but I am getting sick of it. They never glorify the paperwork which can be bureaucratic and redundant.
Iron Workers are demand in the Burgh of recent I thought about it. The pay is good but, the question is how much longer is the going to be a job.
I am finishing my degree and I fear a career change to a desk full time.

[1mystk]

**F*ck, what was we talking about?

hmmm...the thread was about how hard your core was...

I am a paper pusher... but I am up an ab0ot ;) and climbing stairs during my shift at work... on my break I go for a walk, and that is on top of the 2 mile walk I did with my dogs in the morning before I go to work...

last time I step foot in a gym was ...hummm... 2001:confused:... when I got married I stopped going, and when I got divorced I bought a dog. I started with walking and running and hiking with her, then with the addition of the other two dogs and competing in dog shows, and finally biking... I would rather spend my money on bike parts instead of a membership;):D

my core has gotten stronger with my crutching around the house... unbelievable how ones upper body needs to work to carry the body around...

I can't wait to get back on the bike... kickaSS:D:cool:

[one piece crank]

Haven't been in a gym since a high school lax coach made me go! Not that I don't want/need additional exercise, but just between home projects (paver patio, cutting sod, swapping a transmission, mowing..) I get enough of a core workout. Heck, every time I mow equates to ~8.5 miles of walking!!!

Now tack-on activities with the kids, like soccer, hiking, and yes, more cycling, and I simply run out of daylight...

Tom P.

[tryandgetme]

Haven't been in a gym since a high school lax coach made me go! Not that I don't want/need additional exercise, but just between home projects (paver patio, cutting sod, swapping a transmission, mowing..) I get enough of a core workout. Heck, every time I mow equates to ~8.5 miles of walking!!!

Now tack-on activities with the kids, like soccer, hiking, and yes, more cycling, and I simply run out of daylight...

Tom P.

agreed. own a home. good workout. and that's not only 8.5 miles of walking, that's 8.5 miles of walking with more resistance than normal. I was doing flooring all weekend. stand up, cut, kneel down, hammer, stand up, cut, kneeo down, hammer... for 16 hours of the weekend.

[one piece crank]

..stand up, cut, kneel down, hammer, stand up, cut, kneeo down, hammer... for 16 hours of the weekend.

I feel your pain. Home ownership - should come with a crate of Advil...

Tom P.

[mudnuts]

Man some of you guys seem fit! I just go with the ol portion control and this whole workout!http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=8s2-UVDQwdg&feature=related ! Keeps me BUFF-ish!!

[oldcoot52]

Y'all aren't doin it right.

Step 1: Insert favorite head banging CD (Nickelback, Puddle of Mudd, Metallica....)

Step 2: Turn volume knob clockwise

Step 3: Push 'Play'

Step 4: Work out til ya drop

See - Simple :)

[Marticus]

Y'all aren't doin it right.

Step 1: Insert favorite head banging CD (Nickelback, Puddle of Mudd, Metallica....)

Step 2: Turn volume knob clockwise

Step 3: Push 'Play'

Step 4: Work out til ya drop

See - Simple :)

Except for the fact that you mention "Nickleback" and "Puddle of Mudd", I agree (unless, of course, by "favorite" you atually mean "derivative, talentless emo-pop masquerading as 'rock'" ... if that's the case, then, yeah, Nickleback and Puddle of Mudd.) :D

[oldcoot52]

Except for the fact that you mention "Nickleback" and "Puddle of Mudd", I agree (unless, of course, by "favorite" you atually mean "derivative, talentless emo-pop masquerading as 'rock'" ... if that's the case, then, yeah, Nickleback and Puddle of Mudd.) :D

Well, its about all I've got left. The young 'uns made off with all my Hendrix, Doors, Zeppelin, Cream....

At least I still have the vinyl. They can't figure out how to get those big disks in the car player :p