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Knapes
04-24-2008, 12:36 PM
Got an odd flyer touting the benefits of training with chocolate milk (NESQUIK):

The NESQUIK info. material contained the following items:

-40% of the recommended daily value of calcium.

-NESQUIK contains 33% more calcium than milk and 30% less sugar than sodas and fruit flavored drinks.

-Subjects who drank chocolate milk a couple of hours before an intense second bout of exercise showed an increase in endurance.

-Studies suggest that Chocolate milk may have the optimal 4:1 carbohydrate-to-protein ratio for refueling tired, post-workout muscles.

Thoughts?????
My take is it's a great piece of propoganda but I don't think that I nor the kids I coach will be chugging nesquik before a race or ride/run any time soon. (but I will take them up on their offer for a free case)

Shodan
04-24-2008, 12:48 PM
I have read that about chocolate milk in general, not an ad from Nesquik. I think the info I read spoke more about it as a recovery drink than pre-workout drink. A lot of people probably wouldn't care for it during or immediately befor a ride/workout, but I think it's a good choice for a couple hours before, and after.

I think it's important to seperate it's nutritional value from it's thirst-quenching value.

free spirit
04-24-2008, 01:22 PM
Drinking milk and heavy riding do not mix. nope.

mimbresman
04-24-2008, 03:45 PM
Milk here in Venezuela (if you can find it...lately things have gotten better) is mostly in the powdered form. Lately I've been making a blender full (4 cups) adding Nesquik or Nestles Savory (the real good stuff!) in the evenings. I'll drink 1/2 in the evening after working out, 1/2 at breakfast.

During the week (M-F) I work in a different town, so I use a home elliptical trainer 30-minutes/day because my bikes are at home in PLC.

Also part of this getting-in-shape process, I've given up soft drinks. I'll drink a lot of water after the workout and have the chocolate milk an hour or two later. I have lost weight and gained fitness.

I figure chocolate milk is way better than Coca-cola or Pepsi.

tryandgetme
04-24-2008, 03:51 PM
drink it after riding, not before

rockyrider
04-24-2008, 04:19 PM
And only if you're not lactose intolerant. :rolleyes:

phlatlander
04-24-2008, 04:38 PM
drink it after riding, not before

Exactly. Jogmate (et al) capitalized on this several years back by condensing milk ooze into a convenient little toothpaste tube for post-race muscle recovery. It seemed to work for sponsored rider Steve Tilford, but I could never test the stuff (see Rocky's lactose intolerant post). There's many ways to get the needed sugars, sodium & proteins before/after workouts, and this was just one solution marketed. Mine's good old pb&j+h2o.

rockyrider
04-24-2008, 08:22 PM
Mine's good old pb&j+h2o.Peanut butter and jalapeno jelly.... mmmmmm.

S. cerevisiae
04-24-2008, 08:25 PM
Having worked in a processing dairy during and after college I can attest to one thing about milk...drink skimmed (non-fat) milk. One of the things I did there was cleaning the separators. These large centrifuges separate cream from the non-fat milk. They also spin out the "solids", things like skin cells from the utter, blood cells from the utter, dirt from the utter, et.c from the utter.

Looked like boiled liver. Smelled worser. Yep...skim milk for me, even if chocolate. The reduced fat options are no better (1% & 2%) as they merely cut "whole" milk with skim to reduce the butterfat.

phlatlander
04-24-2008, 08:25 PM
Peanut butter and jalapeno jelly.... mmmmmm.

That works. Or raspberry Hammer Gel substituted for jelly when you're in a pinch. Expensive jelly, though, but less sugar spikes.

nogearshere
04-24-2008, 09:20 PM
They also spin out the "solids", things like skin cells from the utter, blood cells from the utter, dirt from the utter, et.c from the utter.


i am so mad at you right now.

K-Man
04-24-2008, 09:56 PM
mmmmmm chocolate soy milk :)

S. cerevisiae
04-24-2008, 10:17 PM
mmmmmm chocolate soy milk :)

OK, so soy is allegedly better for a person (the juries are still out on that one), but nothing that comes from a plant can be called milk. Soy juice? Processed soy oil-made-to-look-like-milk?

Regardless of what one calls it it tastes like crap.

BMAC
04-24-2008, 11:38 PM
My 4 year old grandson and my friends son are very picky eaters,they eat very little for a few days and then eat pretty good for a day or two.Anyways my grandson downs about close to 3 gallons of choclate milk per week and he goes non-stop,i've read a few articles the last few years about chocolate milk as a energy drink but watching my grandson has made me a believer.

Liberal Monkey
04-25-2008, 12:49 AM
I will only drink whey

mscotch
04-25-2008, 01:34 AM
I will only drink whey far away :eek:;)

I've read the same, good recovery drink. C. milk has been my choice for years, started using it after xc skiing races, etc. Switched to skim years ago, even in WI!:eek:

phlatlander
04-25-2008, 10:46 AM
OK, so soy is allegedly better for a person (the juries are still out on that one), but nothing that comes from a plant can be called milk. Soy juice? Processed soy oil-made-to-look-like-milk?

Regardless of what one calls it it tastes like crap.

Tell this to milkweed, cactus & the coconut. ;)

I happen to think soymilk is quite delicious, and there's no soy blood or pod scales to centrifuge out. Mmmmm, that magical bean can do it all.

rockyrider
04-25-2008, 10:47 AM
Tell this to milkweed, cactus & the coconut. ;)And dandelions.

brown group
04-27-2008, 05:30 PM
i've never liked the 'chunky' feature of Quik - the stuff never dissolves. Ovaltine, OTOH, has excellent milk solubility. We also have the good fortune of getting our milk from a local dairy, no hormones and the taste is great.