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EBasil
10-25-2004, 06:14 PM
Let's get the word out to our user groups: "Closed means Closed and a Little Patience Won't Hurt". Whether this applies to your local riding area, or to one of mine, the Los Penasquitos Canyon Preserve, it's just good trail policy to stay off trails closed for "weather reasons".

In SoCal, our soils are not usually the high-percolation soils that can handle a lot of water, but are clayey, adobe-based dirt that tends to hold water, then break down into bad ruts and erosion problems, even where the plants on top haven't been burned away... This is certainly the case is Los Penasquitos.

Over the past year, the Multiuse Trails Coalition and SDMBA have performed well over 300 hours of maintenance work on one trail in Los Pen, known as Cobblestone. Our work included the establishment and cleaning of two "equestrian/no bikes" trails, and the designation of two sections of the old trail as "no horses", but most of the work was to repair water damage and to install erosion controls within the context of mostly singletrack trails.

Last Tuesday, two of us were sent in for "emergency repairs" to deal with the results of major storms, and this last Saturday, we hiked in to see how things fared. Here's an excerpt from what we found....

On Saturday, we saw evidence of two trail-runners, four-five bikes and 6-8 horses that had been on Cobblestone Trail *since the rains*, and which had to go right by the "Park Closed" sign posted at the top of the trail on the Del Mar Mesa.

We were on foot, inspecting some "emergency trail repairs" installed Tuesday night, in response to the big rains the week before and in anticipation of the big rains that arrived later last week. As you all know, Cobblestone trail(s) have been the focus of a lot of effort in trail-sharing and in many hours of volunteer trail maintenance labor since this time last year.

The good news is that the "emergency measures" held up and performed very well to divert water off the trail and reduce the rutting this trail can be known for. The bad news is that several of the berms and drains we repaired on Tuesday were badly damaged on Friday or Saturday by equestrian trail users that entered the closed Preserve and post-holed not only the trail but also destroyed repairs made to water diversion berms by stomping them into muddy holes. They also rode up/down the "whoop-de-do" section in the "no horses portion" of Lower Cobbles and inflicted serius damage to the soft slopes there.

Although the trail-runners and bikes left some footprints and some tire marks in the mud, they weren't heavy enough to damage the water berms that had been constructed of rocks and mud.

To make matters worse, after we repaired some of the equestrian-inflicted damage to the trail, we encountered a group of four coming down Cobblestone Trail. They acknowledged having ridden right past the "Park Closed" sign, and claimed they had a right to ride on the trails because "it's horse country". When reminded that the park is closed and that this applies to all users, equally, their ride leader took his horse directly up a slope *off trail* and then led his group of four back into the Preserve, down a trail just to the south of Cobblestone (directly into an area closed to horses). These four horses and their riders are stabled off the Del Mar Mesa, judging from the absence of any trailers up near the trailhead.

Much of the repairs we'd made on Saturday had to be redone after the equestrians rode over them, and this same group presumably left the Preserve by riding right up and over the repairs we'd made, for the second time, on their way out.

By the time this incident occured, Ranger Brown was off-duty, so there was no response possible, other than to seek to spread the word to our cyclists and equestrian friends: stay off muddy trails.

davkatreb
10-25-2004, 08:03 PM
Two words-citizen's arrest. These Alpo operators should have been detained for the authorities.

Divscotty
10-26-2004, 02:04 AM
Carry a camera. Take photos of them and of their damage and press charges. Make them pay. See what they think of their "rights" then. A camera is a powerful tool. My little camera even has a short video. Shoot a vido of them too.

Divscotty

EBasil
10-26-2004, 01:50 PM
Yeah, the bummer was that we'd left the camera behind, accidentally.

But the point of the post isn't that equestrians are inherently evil. Heck, our group, The Multiuse Trails Coalition, includes equestrians that support "trails for everyone" and act responsibly. Just as there were bike tracks in the Preserve, the equestrians have their Five Percenters that ignore rules and don't care what they thrash. Of course, one bummer is that it only takes a few horses to do major trail damage.

davkatreb
10-26-2004, 08:50 PM
Yeah, the bummer was that we'd left the camera behind, accidentally.

But the point of the post isn't that equestrians are inherently evil. Heck, our group, The Multiuse Trails Coalition, includes equestrians that support "trails for everyone" and act responsibly. Just as there were bike tracks in the Preserve, the equestrians have their Five Percenters that ignore rules and don't care what they thrash. Of course, one bummer is that it only takes a few horses to do major trail damage.

Well Cheeze Louise, chase 'em down, beat the crap out of them, THEN hike back and get the camera. Oh yeah, and they think they intimidate you just because they are on a half ton of unprocessed dog food. WRONG! Eight pound sledgehammer between the running lights will drop a horse INSTANTLY. You DO bring a sledgehammer along when you're building trails, don't you? Or was that in the car along with the camera?

Cripes, now I'm doing your thinking for you? No wonder I'm so friggin tired. And I'm not a mean drunk, but I'm a VERY mean tired.

EBasil
10-27-2004, 10:16 AM
At 3:30 this morning, our latest rain storm hit, heavy, and heavy is just what we can't handle in our burned areas and on the trails I posted about in this thread (not burned). By 5:30, thinking about the hydraulic load on Cobblestone Trail, knowing the velocities and heavy spots in big rain, and fearing even more trail vandalizing occured on Sunday, I had enough images of ruts and the undoing of so much volunteer labor and really good trail retrofit designs that I have to admit to deep dark thoughts about a certain, minority user group on our trails that do no trail maintenance, have virtual carte blanche access and cause the majority of the destruction and erosion damage.

I'm not quite to the point of wanting to hurt peoples' pets, but I am ready for a neck-stretchin' party for a few of the pet owners.

DanLees
10-27-2004, 12:00 PM
what british bridleways look like after a few of our hooved friends have trotted down their in November or January.

Some become unpassable to anyone bar horses.

EBasil
11-08-2004, 08:26 PM
Posting that first message here was just part of a big campaign to get the word out and to put particular elements of the equestrian/anti-bike crowd on notice that we'd be pushing the trail-damage issue this year (hey, when your volunteers put 300 hours of time into one measly trail, you get bitchy about the thought of having to go back and re-do it). It seems to have worked for those first storms....

Special Thanks to anyone that talked up the idea about staying off of
muddy trails, particularly Cobblestone, in Los Penasquitos after our
recent rains! Let's keep that up and remind our user groups after
each significant rainstorm.

Saturday, some friends and I inspected a number of the trails on the
north side of the creek, to see how the handled the rain following
such a long dry stretch with increased trail use. It was good to
see a minimum of trail-damage from use while it was muddy and not too
many places with major damage from the heavy storms. Perhaps best of
all, the volunteer-work on Cobblestone Trail seems to have both
shouldered the water load and to have dried into nice, hardened
features that should do us well all winter (as long as we don't mash
them down when muddy) to slow and divert water off the trail.