Have you ever struck back?

[Raymo853]

While riding your bike have you ever struck back at a car that cut you off, nearly hit you, etc?

I once threw a water bottle at a speeding truck on a forest road. Others folks I know have done much more, like throwing coins, u-locks and getting off the bike and pounding on folks cars.

While walking I have reached out and hit a few cars. Just last week I guy in a Trooper cut me off in a crosswalk so I punched the rear quarter panel. He stopped, he was not happy. I has made me think I got to calm down or I am going to get a beating or shot.

[INTENSEe]

I found a tennis ball and I kept it with the intention of giving it to my dog to play with, But some moron cut me off and honked at me, then the passenger rolled down their window and told me to get off the road. I just sat their at the stop light looking at the tennis ball I just found and as they drove off I just chucked it and nailed the back window. I was and am still laughing at the looks on their face. LOL!! man I guess I was lucky they didn't turn around and run over me? but I think they were scared of the crazey man riding his bike down a major road in the winter (ME).
And other times when in heavy traffic I ride past a row of cars and tap on every window and all they can do is sit their in traffic. Last week I fliped off a bunch of teens and they chaised me down in their honda and one got out with a bat but I went crazy and rode really fast at him and taped him on the head as I went by. (I don't think this kid had the gust to swing at me) I love playing with the drivers but I think im going to be safer from now on. Peace and good luck finding cool stuff. Good aim pays!
Erik Carlson

[Rotifer]

I followed some teenagers home once and bitched them out, they thought I was psychotic. I've also punched, kicked, spat and shot snot on vehicles. I've tryed to calm down a bit because I live in a small town and you never know when you are going to freak on someone that you know.

[Raymo853]

Originally posted by INTENSEe

And other times when in heavy traffic I ride past a row of cars and tap on every window and all they can do is sit their in traffic.
[/B]

Man, you have got to stop this. I love riding by cars stuck in traffic knowing it gets them mad, and that is enough joy for me. But you, tapping people's gas-powered penis extensions and breast enhancements without a reason just gives them a reason to hate bikes.

[leapfrog]

i find it perfectly rational to smack the hell out of someones car when they cut you off. a lot of cars dont realize how close they are to you, or they think passing you in your lane as close as they usually do is common practice. giving them a good wop on the quarter panel not only lets them know that they are close enough to you for you to hit them, it also lets you express your disapproval. but by all means, be prepared for someone to come back at you...cause some dudes don't like their precious rides scuffed up.

it's also a secret joy of mine to spit on a drivers window (stuck at a light of course) who deliberately swerved or honked at me. i don't spit on everyone...cuase i feel that kinda puts you on the offensive...just the ones that go out of their way to **** with you. they hate looking at a big dripping gob of spit on their window im sure.

and yea, i've known of people taking out windows with u-locks and what not. i've never done that and it would take a lot to do it...like someone really hitting you, but i understand it.

scott
leapfrog bike zine

[INTENSEe]

Yea I just did the ride and tap thing 2 days of last week in rush hour, I got a great laugh out of it but im not going to do it any more. I hope im not the only one who thinks its funny, but I'm done with the making cars mad thing they have enough problems anyway! Keep on riding!
Erik Carlson

[Andy in Wi]

Some guy threatened to sue me for smacking his quaterpanel on his giant suburban. Of course, he was standing in the street still waiting turn, and I was up a block. That was Menomonie
Also, some dude in Chicago spazzed at me. I actually had just put my hand on his car to stabilize me during a low speed turn. My u-lock, through the loop on my messenger, swung out and made a clunk against his car. Well, all this and the guy felt he was under assualt. So we exchanged words. Very dirty words. I turned around to leave him be, because what is going to do, stuck at a traffic light 7th in line, walk up to me? Well, he did, but the light greened for us at the right time and my friend Jon and I booked out off the scene. Yikes, man... some guys are crazy.
-Andy

[roaddog]

I am very possessive of my "space" as we all have. I get way nuts and one time some car got way close. Well I caught the car later and caved in the driver's door (with people in it). Another time I had three men trapped in a van. and one pointed to his cell phone. All that did was get me mad.

[LoneBiker]

The worst ive done has been flipping people off and spitting on their windshields, usually both are done when i get passed head on by a car passing slower cars. flip off, hold on, spit, brace for wind impact.

[JerseyDevil]

I usually try to let minor clashes go. If I act irate at someone for something minor, the only thing my retaliation would do is get them pissed. Then I'd be giving them a bad image of bicycle riders and they would probably not be nice to anyone on a bike ever again.
When you're on your bike, you're an ambassador for all bike riders. If motorists see you as a lenient, considerate, and responsible bike rider, usually they will realize they were a jerk and that you're just trying to ride your bike. If you get all midevil on their ass, they will get mad back, and there will be a war. They will make it a point to create a living hell for eveyone on a bike from that point on. Always try to give a good positive image of riders when on your bike. It'll make people aware that we're not just some hippy freaks cluttering up the roads, but that bikes are a good method of fun and transportation.
But sometimes things get hairy. I was riding through a parking lot after going to a bank, and a lady in a Ford Explorer was coming up the aisle. She sees a parking spot, steps on the gas, and cuts me off. She was looking me in the eyes, so I know she saw me. I hit the brakes hard, threw my weight back, and turned quickly. Her passenger side rear-view mirror hit my shoulder as I turned. She parked, got out, glanced over at the side of the truck and started walking to the bank. I said "Excuse me. Thanks for almost killing me." She said "That's okay, someone would have swept you up. Bicycles don't belong in parking lots", and started laughing. Then I said "And stupid bitches don't belong behind a steering wheel", and I kicked my 2 Sidi toe-spikes upward along her door, leaving two deep and long gouges in the door. She turned around and ran over to see what I did as I rode off laughing aloud.

[hairygrump]

I think I've said it before on this forum, but I don't think it's ever worth it to lash out at a driver that almost killed you. If they kill you it's an accident; if you damage their car it's vandalism, assault, etc. City bikers live in a blind spot in the law, and the only time we become visible to it is when we break it. For that reason, anytime somebody comes too close for comfort I just wait for them to go away and calm myself down with a few repetitions of "they can't kill you. will of the cockroach. they can't kill you. will of the cockroach." It's not true, but as long as I believe it I won't become a weak child that can't get where he needs to go under his own power.

That said, if someone almost runs me over because they didn't see me, I do my best to traumatize them into looking next time. If I can run next to their window, I do that. If I can take up the whole lane in front of them so they know bikers use this road, I do that. But when they honk or make aggressive moves at me, they can have the road. I'll always assert my right to be on the road, but I'd never fight for it. The beauty of the transportation options I've made is that I can safely pilot mine on pretty much any surface in the city. Drivers are coralled into their pathetically cramped "open road," and they're very protective of it. I can either squeeze through them or go around on the sidewalk. will of the cockroach.

[INTENSEe]

"And stupid bitches don't belong behind a steering wheel", and I kicked my 2 Sidi toe-spikes upward along her door, leaving two deep and long gouges in the door

Thanks for the laugh, that lady had it coming! I sorta aggree about not stiking back but what fun would that be!? Stand up for yourself and let cars know that were here! but better safe then sorry, so if they look wimpy key their car but if they look like they would try and hurt you then let it be.
Ride Safe

[Raymo853]

I know a guy up here in Central PA that noticed when riding to the gun range with his rifle on his back cars gave him a much greater berth when they passed. He decided to come up with a holster for some semi-auto pistol he has and has done a few rides that way and noticed the same thing. There are times I am motivated to do the same.

I have noticed when I wear the one American Flag style jersey I have I get fewer cars passing me within inches at high speed.

[leapfrog]

i agree with not striking back at times and trying to make your presence known in more passive ways when the situation calls for it..but i'm also all up for getting up in peoples faces (metaphorically) when someone goes out of their way to either do harm to you or attempt to frighten you. i've noticed that whenever i do confront someone in a situation like that, first they freak that i caught up and now they have to deal with a pissed off kid, and most often they back down and apologize. you know "i was just messin around, sorry". usually it's cool after that. i just know that when you catch up to someone and confront them, they sure as hell are going to think twice about messing with the next rider they see in fear that the same thing might happen again. i think the main reason riders are messed with is because we are seen as vulnerable and unable to defend ourselves as cars are quick get away vehicles...but was we all know, cars are the worst get away vehicles when driven in traffic. when we show that cars can't get away from us so easily and that we are assertive enough to defend ourselves (hopefully verbally first) then we are sending a message that such action should be avoided in the future. i honestly believe it works.

scott
leapfrog bike zine

[JerseyDevil]

Unfortunately, most drivers are ignorant toward cyclists. Sometimes, it's not their fault. They see a bike as a toy that doesn't belong on the same road as cars. A lot of cyclists don't follow the rules of the road. They ride on the wrong side of the road, blow stop signs, and don't use lights at night. This gives drivers a bad image of all bike riders. Drivers don't realize we are dedicated cyclists who know how to ride and have decent machines.
They don't know we ride for fun, fitness, and to save the Earth and our own minds. Bikes are the only mode of transportation for some people who can't afford or refuse to buy a car. They are more than toys to us.
If they were given the oppurtunity to learn about bike lifestyle, drivers might have more respect for bike riders. Right now, they only view us as obstructions.
If a driver does something wrong and we retaliate, we're the assholes. If cyclists don't retaliate, drivers will keep viewing cyclists as bothersome.
Either way, most of the time, we're screwed. Just try to ride with a sixth sense and some wisdom. And a nice heavy U-lock.

[Tim]

This morning, a light turned and while I was gathering speed, a guy who'd been waiting in the oncoming lane in a Chevy Monte Carlo hollered, "Hey, nice track stand buddy. I liked it!". Made my day:D .

More on topic, for me and my acquantainces the norm in vehicular accidents is that a concerned motorist stops to help, or else chases down the offender. I remember when I was picking up speed off of a friend's side-view mirror, something went wrong, and a passing motorist watched me tumble. She wouldn't leave until I'd convinced her that it was probably my fault and I shouldn't press charges, which wasn't easy.

cheers

[The Gordo]

STRIKE BACK! Just don't strike first.

[unrooted]

Damn cars were driving me crazy, and still do, so now I ride all back streets because I get pissed off really easy, and I don't want one of these redneck peices of poop hitting me with their stupid trucks. I want to buy an old 75 pos oldsmobile and smack the crap out the majority of the drivers in Ogden,


UGH just thinking about all the a-holes on the road is getting me worked up right now. I think I'm going to go throw bricks at random hick-trucks.

[justwright03]

I cycle commute a few times a week from northern Kentucky into downtown Cincinnati, Ohio. The thing that always scares me is when a car starts tailgating me in city traffic. They don't realize how dangerous that is. If they were tailgating a car and the car suddenly stopped, it would be a mere fender-bender. But if I have to stop suddenly, it's a traffic fatality. I usually ease to one side and encourage them to pass me...but then get them back at the next traffic light when I blaze past them and end up about two blocks ahead by the time they get moving again...hee hee.

I get cut off at intersections all the time by people turning right on red into my path. They see a bike and think I must be slow. They don't realize I may be going 25-30 mph when they pull in front of me. I've nearly bitten many a bumper in those situations. I usually just shout something obscene. But a couple of times I've actually given the back bumper a love tap with my front tire just to make a point. Noone has ever fought back...I think they're usually embarrassed that they almost caused a wreck.

[Spamula]

I am typically just a verbal reminder kind of guy. Someone is too close or doesn't come to a complete stop or something I just usually yell "Thanks a lot!" or just "HEY HEY HEY!" Most people are so frightened by the loud booming voice right next to them that they obviously feel really embarrassed. They usually didn't even realize I was there.

But every day as I ride and watch for cars I just keep thinking to myself "If you almost kill me, I dent your car. Hurt me and I dent your car." Over and over. I think a small Spamula sized dent is worth whatever physical harm I incur.

Normally though people are real cool. I wave, I smile, I give "The Nod" and they do the same. Two people sharing the road and trying not to kill eachother.

[hairygrump]

Originally posted by Spamula
Normally though people are real cool. I wave, I smile, I give "The Nod" and they do the same. Two people sharing the road and trying not to kill eachother.

Way to focus, dude. I'm convinced the Nod is all we need to make civilization a livable place. Don't strike. Say hello.

[i8urbrain]

I commute to work for the peace of mind. For the work out, and for the chance to hold onto my self control.
I think the best revenge was the woman who pulled a right turn with no signal with out looking and I went over her hood. I got so pissed crazy that she locked her door, and cried. Once I calmed down we exchanged information. I called her for 4 mornings to remind her what she did, and how much pain I was in. She was sorry, and hopefully will look before she turns again.
I am always at war with my anger, my irrational rage, and my human side. I would love to say that most of the time civil and kind to motorist, but here in D.C. I think most of them just do not expect to see me coming, although there are so many cyclist on the streets here. The are asleep just like I am for part of the ride, but the weather extreams, or the beauty of the day snaps me out of it. Threw all that fine stuff there lurks the beast of rage, and unsolved baggage. These people have no clue how pissed this "bike guy" can get. I have stopped and stood infront of cars with my bike on the street and begged people to get out and deal with me face to face. I have chased people down and screamed at them. I have damaged cars and thrown just about anything other then a U-lock threw windows. (hell they are not cheap). And I only aim for open windows. I am not proud of this, but I know just how far I am capable of going, and it is not pretty. Every day I ride and do not get angy or enraged at some monkey in a car I am doing better.
I just want the people in the cars to know that it might not be safe for them. Cause there are people more dangerous then I will ever be out there.

[Divscotty]

Well... how does one reply to that. I think your actions may be real close to a stalker (Calling for 4 mornings in a row). It happens often - someone does a wrong and the injured person freaks out and goes beyond legal limits and then spends the rest of their young life behind bars. Cool Down, relax and ride super defensive. Is it right NO but you will be forever glad you took the high route - and you never know if the person you are freaking out on has a gun - you may need to watch out for them as much as they you.

Peace

Divscotty

[LoneBiker]

diva has some points, but aslo 8urbrain has some good ones too, not to mention knows how to tell a story;) alls i have to say is a comment on 'D.C. capitol of capitolism', thats a pretty cool phrase, and fairly accurate as well

[Mr. Pinchy]

Hmmm, my favorite revenge story would have to be..
One day while riding the mean streets of Boston. I was going to make a left hand turn so naturaly I was in the left lane. Well some a@# hole in a shiny new BMW decides he wants to make a left hand turn as well. I'm practically along side him and I see him flip his directional on.. but he only looked in his mirror and not over his shoulder or he would have seen me. So one could argue it would have been my fault anyway
but those people suck and should be paying attention. Anyway I saw that this guy wasn't aware enough so I decided to help him out. He started coming at me, (it was the middle of summer and his window was down), so I grabed my trusty 150 decible personal injury deterant,(air horn), put it about 2 feet from his head and promply put him back in his lane, (I'm still laughin months later), needless to say he missed that turn and will probably look over his shoulder for a while!

Ridin the snow banks of Boston and lovin winter!
Mr. Pinchy
(Joe)

[The Gordo]

I was riding to work one morning, it was warm and sunny... Two hot girls in a Mustang convertable were making fun of me... Pointing, laughing... I blew past them at a stop light a flipped them off.

At the next chance, they blew past me and threw an ice cream bar at me. Gooey and half eaten, it stuck to my shoulder and then slid down and off...getting my Cannondale all sticky. I was PISSED.

I saw them waiting at a traffic light ahead. They were laughing so hard that they didn't hear me sneak up behind them. I took my water bottle, full of Lime Gatorade (warm) leaned into their open space and sprayed them in the faces and called them names that I will not repeat here amidst my friends.

Easy in, easy out no one gets hurt. I split down an alley and got away. At the bike shop, it was a running joke earning me the nick-name Ice Cream Man for about five minutes.

[LoneBiker]

Oh, wow, you guys made my morning, its been a while since the forum has made me laugh like that. THe airhorn would scare the shit outta ya, and the icecream one is just funny as hell. IN thier convertible, obviously driving to be seen, and their whole little outfit covered with the sticky goodness of a biker! Good stuff, anyone who hasnt posted on this thread needs to

[i8urbrain]

Today I rode out to where my new house is going to be, and when I got cut off, I just cruised by the oblivious cell phone user, and when she stopped at the next light I rolled up next to her window and yelled "Boo!" She dropped her phone, and I just laughed and cruised on home. I do not advocate property damage, or starting conflict with someone in a two ton bomb on wheels, I just know that I have good days and bad ones. I try my best not to freak out, but eveyonce in awhile I hit my wall. Maybe I was cooler because I did not have to spend most of the day explaining to customers why I cannot give them a discount on a bike just because they breathe the same air I do. But that is another rant for another day.

Reed.

[eugarpst]

You know, jacked by the opening door of a parked car? It's happened to me twice, luckily i only clipped the door with the handlebar, which will of course put you on the pavement. I yelled at both of the offenders for a few minutes, second time I considered putting a brick through their windshield later that night, but never did, of course.

I dented a dude's trunk with a heavy cable lock once after his passenger tried to grab me off of the bike for no apparent reason. It never seems to occur to these idiots that you can catch them at the next light!

But be careful though, actions such as these could get one shot or run over. Hard to think straight in the moment sometimes, you know? Commuting gets me pretty hopped up and it's hard to chill out and think rationally.

[LoneBiker]

find unnatended car
pop hood
remove 1 spark plug
instert marble size ball bearing
replace spark plug
close hood

vehicle runs fine for the first few miles, then engine blows up
only do to 1 cylinder, more than one bearing will cause obvious engine malfunction

[el Jefe]

My friend Bullitt (his msgr handle) got into it with a driver and ended up with a steel plate in his head. You just never know who you're ****ing with.

[DancingBear]

I'm lucky enough to have never been given a reason to strike back. I've been buzzed a few times, but that's it. I yelled and cussed when it was obviously aggressive, and I have no problems staring down the perps at a stoplight, but I've only had to do that twice. I have a friend (team spandex wearing roadie, former pro in europe) who has been dragged off of his bike and beaten, shot at, and had many many things thrown at him. We ride in the same general area, and we ride through traffic in the same manner, generally following the rules and flowing with traffic. I'm even a little more aggressive than him. I find that motorists almost always give me plenty of room when passing and respect my right of way at intersections.

I make a lot of eye contact, smile, and wave. It seems that I suddenly become human when I make eye contact or flash a smile. Maybe it helps that I'm huge, but I doubt that someone inside a car would be intimidated by a big man on a bicycle.

[Pedro]

I have really wanted to at times, but then my better judgement (???) kicks in and helps to restrain me.
I often will tap on someones trunk or fender if we are in traffic to let them know I am there; most people react positively if you remember to smile at them.
The smile is very important.

I almost endoed right into the bed of a pickup one time, but just ended up whacking him. He pulled over and was more concerned about me than his truck, which was crappy - but still, i smiled and all was good.

I have picked up my cell phone and called a few plate numbers in to the cops before. A few for driving with budweisers in their hands, and the others for being bastards.

It is really gratifying to get down the road aways and see the guy getting written up!

[glenzx]

As an adult I can reflect back on some of the more idiotic things I did when I was younger. MOST of them occured while I was messengering in NYC in the early 90's. I do not advocate ANY of the behavior I will describe below, but at the time it seemed remarkably restrained for the most part... but again, blasting around NYC all day every day has a way of distorting one's perspective. (not to mention keeping you cranked up like a coke-head.... which I was not...)

My favorite "non-violent" form of retribution aimed mostly at the Taxi Cab's was after being nearly mowed down, cut off, not seen, almost t-boned at an intersection, or yelled at (happened a lot, for no reasoon!) or anything else, was to ride up next to the cab in traffic, while moving, and pop open the rear door. That's it. Preferably the passenger side so they'd have to get out and close it. The best was when there would be a fare in the back seat.... I'd remind them that cabbies that are not paying attention in traffic shouldn't get a tip...as they'd gape at me spinning my fixie at 25mph in traffic, as if we were sitting next to each other in a social setting.

Of course there were times when I was a little more revved up and would need something more satisfying.

One time a cabbie blew a red light, almost running over my toes as I talked with a nice lady and her little boy waiting to cross, I bolted out into the intersection where he was now stuck in gridlock and punched his rear side window out. I had meant to hit it to startle him, but it shattered. Oh well.

Then there were many FIRM kicks to the sides of cars that A) scared the heck out of the occupants and B) put a big a@@ dent in the side of the vehicle.

Getting progressively worse, when I was REALLY ticked off, I used to carry links from a busted old 'cobra' lock in my pocket. I launched one through a delivery van (!) rear window, 2 taxi's and one total a@@hole in some big Benz.

Possibly the worst and ugliest scenario was on 45th street right off of Lex. I was cruising up the block, slowing down and pulling to the curb to lock up my bike, when some guy in a cube truck dashes into the spot next to the curb I was still vacating, actually hitting me & my bike! I swear he meant to, as I had remebered passing a ways back in traffic and maybe he was having a real bad day. Anyhow, I was having a rotten a@@ day myself, so of course I go over to his partially opened window and start screaming at him. He starts rolling his window up so I, of course, have to punch it out. But wait. First, I kind of swat at his rear view mirror which shatters too. So this fire-plug of a middle aged guy is pretty cranked up now and as he's opening the door and hopping out, I see he's grabbed one of those small 3lb type sledge hammers with a short handle. I step back and throw my bag off and am READY to throw down now. He swings the thing at me sloppily,, I avoid it and then I jumped the dude and started to beat the living cr@p out of him. FORTUNATELY two other messengers (with cooler heads) see what's unfolding and come over and drag our asses apart. As I go into the building to make a delivery I notice I've got bloody knuckles from him and from a few pieces of glass. The guys at the mailroom hooked me up with a first aid kit so I clean up and start feeling like a complete loser. That guy could have been a bonded driver.... carrying a gun.... and made a much worse day for me! Not to mention my crazed over-reaction. I'm WAY more the lover than the fighter!

On a lighter note, and not about striking back, one fine spring day cruising down 5th avenue, I had just crossed 42nd. st. and on the right side in front of the NYC Public Library, there's sort of a bus staging area where they are all parallel parked at the curb nose-to-rear. I'm right there between the 1st lane of traffic and the waiting busses, going maybe 12-15mph when this cute lady steps out, arms laden with shopping bags, and WHAM! I slow but can't avoid hitting her.... she'a sort of holding her bags, AND onto the front of my bike as we roll sloppily down to a point just in front of the last bus, hit the curb, fall over and have a big laugh out of the whole ordeal. She was OK and was totally apologetic, and there was no problem.... she didn't drop a bag!

All true!

[LoneBiker]

Those are some good stories, i understand your being upset about recounting such events and your actions, but its true, being out there and then being exposed to stupidity can lead to direct action. I especially liked the one where you said that guy zoomed past while you were talking to the mom and kid. Sometimes people dont understand the responsibility of driving a bomb on wheels.

[Biggles]

it really is a catch 22 isnt it? I mena if you almost get plowed over and killed it was an "accident" but if you retaliate then your jsut a crazy guy with a helmet and a u-lock. and suddenly Your the asshole i mena seriously WTF is with that? i think im going ot start running into all the black cars on the road because "i didnt see them" this only after i got my commuter bike (a fixie) painted osha approved safety orange wiht white reflective tape candy stripes....its painfully bright.

Oha nd one of my friends hit a guy in his drivers dorr accidentally after the asshole rana stop sign and drove in front of us i stopped in time he crumpled his fornt wheel then proceeded to beat ti straghtish on the gusy hood scream a lot and then threw his bike (sans front wheel) throught the guys windshield pulled it all out put it together and limped the thing home.....I vacated the scene when the guy started crying....just in time to look back and see him pitch the bike into the windshield....you knwo those things wont shatter out? kinda neat they just spiderweb.

[glenzx]

OK Biggles, it's rather hard to understand where you are coming from because it's kind of hard to understand what exactly it is you are saying due to cryptic language AND spelling... but I think I understand nonethe less. Try typing in MSWord first, running spell & grammar check and then paste it here! But anyhow...

Accidents are UNAVOIDABLE, not a term for random stupidity. When someone runs a red light and crashes into someone, they call it an "accident", when in reality it was no accident - but an at fault "collision". Do not attempt to categorize me or other folks out on the road as "crazy" or the "assholes", please. As I stated, I regret reacting the way I did at times. On the streets, there is a need for everyone, drivers and cyclists, to be aware of what is going on around them.

You know what? I'm embarrassed I even started responding to your comments, so I'll stop now because I'd bet a pint that it's not worth it!

[Biggles]

all I was saying is if the driver does something stupid (run you over) its looked at as an accident If the biker does somethng stupid (flip out and smash the guys window or whatever) then he is suddenly in the wrong. while im not saying attacking motorists is right I dont see it as an accident when they carelessly plow into a bike rider shouldnt that be viewed as an attack as well? they get a 50 dollar ticket for "failure to reduce speed to avoid an accident" if anything at all and the rider gets an all but totaled bike and nearly hauled in for assault and battery (I didnt hit anybody I just screamed and threw my messenger bag and pointed fingers...did a lot of name calling, i didnt even hit her car)