riding and the dreaded weed

[ozrules]

I've only noticed, and known of, smokin' riders in the last two years, in San Diego. How widespread is this?

[KENNEDIE]

I hear about it every now and then.

[aredee]

Hmmm.... Smoking, and biking. Hmmm....

That's just, uh... wrong. Yeah, wrong.


:D

[lngnmn]

Coming from the guitar industry. I see it a sometimes with some of the guys i ride with. I don't know how they can do it. But if it makes it more enjoyable to them I could care less. To be honest most of those guys are faster than me anyway.
P
:)

[Mauriceman]

It's either going to help you shred, or take away your skills. Then again, you may just want to lie on the ground and stare at the clouds.

[ridetheworld]

the only way to roost

[DirtRagArt]

I like to time my rides to leave around 4:20... yep. Suits me fine.

I know Davis never even thinks about riding at that time of day...

[Xteife]

Yup, do it . . . err . . . umm, see it quite often.

[ridetheworld]

Some of my best rides have been heightened by the "dreaded weed".
Many of my riding buddies pack a piece in their first aid kit. Many a long mile of terra firma has glided under my slicks, many a mile of east coast singletrack has been packed down by my knobbies. For hordes of riders I think herb is as much of the culture as the aspect of getting free, escaping, being where you have to be or not at all. Giving my props to all The Patapsco riders, GB syle.

[jimilton80401]

In the absence of proper trail etiquette, I imagine weed's demonstrated ability to lower one's overall testosterone level would do wonders for relationships between mtb-ers and other trail users. Maybe aggressive riders will mellow out and actually yield for other trail users, etc.

[riderx]

Originally posted by ridetheworld
Giving my props to all The Patapsco riders, GB syle. When you are back this way, drop a line, Avalon/Patapsco is less than 1 mile from my back door.


ozrules - "Dreaded"? Was this supposed to be a play on words?

[ridetheworld]

I am going to be flying in to b.w.i on early sunday afternoon My name is Dan and i Used to work at bike doctor of linthicum. I am trying to get a couple of my buddies to meet me at avalon, probally around 4 ish at park and ride. My parents live in glen burnie The humidity is gonna be a mother, I have been riding in utah for about 2 months now. and all i do is climb, climb and climb. It will be nice to check out the local scene and catch some rollers

[ridetheworld]

yes a play on words

[ozrules]

How about smokin' and nite-riding?

Some of the coyotes look at me like meals on wheels, early morning and early evening.

[riderx]

Originally posted by ridetheworld
I am going to be flying in to b.w.i on early sunday afternoon My name is Dan and i Used to work at bike doctor of linthicum. I am trying to get a couple of my buddies to meet me at avalon, probally around 4 ish at park and ride. Probably riding in the morning on Sun. unless I can rearrange some things. Drop an email to riderx@singlespeedoutlaw.com with the time you'll be there and I try to make it if possible. Otherwise, maybe during the week. I'll be on a Surly 1x1.

[MTBMike]

I guess I feel a little sorry for those that have to alter their experience mountain biking with drugs.The feeling I get out of it is all I need and doesn't need to get any better by some chemical assistance.To make it any better?I like it just fine the way it is.

[catfish]

Cause you just stepped in it...

Hey Mike, do you use salt on your food? For many, many mountain bikers, herb is the spice of life. It just enhances the experience, and most do it to increase focus. In fact, some of the water bottles you see on the trail are, in fact, covertly disguised bongs. :eek:

I will agree with you that for me (a non-herb smoker) the experience of mountain biking is just fine au naturale, however I would never look down on someones who chooses to imbibe. By the way, no one cares if you feel sorry for them. As for me, I pity small minded, extremely sheltered people.

[MTBMike]

Am I to assume that you feel that I'm sheltered and have a small mind?Sheltered no,small mind, maybe.Sir I speak from one who knows.I spent many,many years in the fierce grip of addiction.Sheltered I think not.I didn't mean to upset you.It's just that I've had a hard life when it comes to drugs, and I've lost a lot of friends If it's at all possible to help anybody to avoid using them,then I will try.

[ozrules]

You've lost friends to weed?

[boob]

I'll state the obvious, as it's obviously necessary considering the taboo of herbage. There's a difference between weed and the 'other drugs' out there. IMHO, people that 'graduate' from weed to harder stuff were bound to regardless of whether they smoked herb first or not, so I don't put a whole lot of stock in the 'gateway drug' theory. Weed effects people differently. I get really lazy when it comes to physical work, but in HIGH school (sorry, I couldn't resist), my grades improved immensely (spell?) while habitually smoking.

[MTBMike]

Back to what I originally was saying,any mind altering substance is in my opinion a distraction from the real fun, one may have.I know weed is a far less powerful drug then the chemicals being used,but it's still dope.So is alcohol which I hate most of all.Maybe I should have said that I personally feel fortunate that I don't need them.And I know they could care less if I feel sorry for them or not.I just do.Peace.

[Raymo853]

There is a group I ride with once in awhile here in Central PA that used to smoke. They would climb and climb, then stop to smoke and eat, then begin the decent. On one of the descent one guy really biffed it and completely messed up his shoulder. He then stopped using the MTB at all and switched to being a full roadie. The rest of the group got a little spooked and have cut way back on their consumption. Was the change warranted? I am not sure.

[adguy]

Back when I first moved to da 'burgh, we used to ride Thursday nights from about 11pm until 2-3am. No lights, urban assault style stuff. We would start at the Foreign Car Embassy, and regulary we would stage indoor lap races around obstacles, doing timed comparisons of "dry" laps and "high" laps. In nearly every case, with every rider, the high times (ha!) were slightly slower than the dry times, but evryone swore the high lap "seemed" faster. So,...I guess it's al in your perspective. Two wheels, one love, brah...

[adguy]

Hey MTBMike,
I like what your sayin. It's true that some folks can take it or leave it when it comes to drugs, while others can't. In my case, I fall into the latter group. :confused: It's good to know there's folks out there that have sen thru the haze and are now better off as a result. It's cool too that you aren't harshing any stoner's shred, just sharing experiences. Email me sometime if you want.

[Rotifer]

I have an instant negative reaction to preachy/whiney bs. Though I think MTBike meant well, it came across wrong. Not so long ago I smoked pot on a daily basis and saw many blazing fast xc and dh racers toking before their runs. I've devolved to a recreational user in my old age (31) - it just doesn't have the effect it once did, but can still be lots of fun. Ganj does not belong in the same realm as alcohol, coke, nicotine, etc. - Oh, where I come from "dope" is heroin.

[ridetheworld]

Anything smoked, will effect you riding. That is why i like my power bars homemade. They last longer than 30 minutes, more like 4 hours. Injesting ganga is a whole nother level.

[Rotifer]

If you read it then just remember that Doctors wrote it. From my personal standpoint, I see Marijuana as damaging to the brain....hence the word "dope".

I don't think the fact that "doctors wrote it" lend much legitimacy. I'm not trying to attack you personally (please don't take offense), but who cares if you think Marijuana damages the brain? Are you a clinical researcher? There is abundant evidence to the contrary, a google search brings up a few examples http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=marijuana+brain+damage. Further, if there was hard evidence to prove such claims we would be hearing about it now.

[Paolo]

Don't knock it till you try it. The Roman scene is filled with the nightlife. For instance, try riding down the Circus Maximus on a humid summer night. You will find everyone fumes the mad herbal - chocolate - as they call it over here. Take it for what it is, for I am one of those who bike with the cigarette, lit, and inhaling, while pedalling. Just watch out for mad scooters, cars and buses, and the pedestrians.

[wherd]

:confused:smoking:confused: at night definitely makes the rustling in the trees a little louder and makes everything seem a little more like a friday the 13th movie...

but it also gets your adrenaline going, and as of yet i have seen no monsters.

so i recomend it.

anyone smoke and ride trails at night alone, NOW THATS CRAZY...

[HELLTACO]

Most my income is from bikers (all kinds) on dope. Da rest is from chicks on welfare.

ENJOY!

[Scott G.]

I echo Aaron's point above. Dirt Rag, for some reason, printed my battle with chemicals on P. 26 Of Issue 95. Biking saved me from my addicition, my addicition (pot at one time then alcohol) took me from my Bike.

An enhanced experience....bike to and sit in on an NA meeting, or try the trails out here at Ford Ord where they have not found all the unexploded ordinance.

[catfish]

Yeah dude, that sounds like a really good time. Or you can ride a flaming cruiser through Compton with a clan hat on...

[The Gordo]

Did that dude ever find those friends that he lost to Pot?

[catfish]

I'm sure they are either in jail or south of the border, running, running from themselves and their severe addiction. Keep them down there, we don't need to be subjected to violent reefer madness in this country. I'll wager that this sniper fellow smokes marijuanee too...

check out this picture of the Al-queda mountain bike death squad...I know they're smoking reefer, probably out of those 6 foot tall hookas with the 12 pipes and the damn cereal bowl on top.

[The Gordo]

I rather enjoy a bit of the Devil Weed when cleaning and working on my bikes. If I'm doing nasty retro restoration work (stripping paint, scrubbing rust ect...) it helps me stay focused. And truing a wheel seems like magic!

(cough)

[Paolo]

Since I have been living in Europe, I have been exposed to several types of hash, and several varieties of cannabis sativa. The worst thing of all is when the Albanians treat their herb with "ammoniaca," a chemical spray used to make you get higher because of the poor quality of the weed - I have learned to stay away frojm this. Second, the hash comes in different qualities. The stuff they call "pollena" is the best, and then there is "chocolate" which varies - they add a plastic compound in order to mess with the recipe - it stinks and the high is followed by a headache. I don't buy this crap. But, as a habitual smoker, I don't care to smoke it oftentimes, just not on a regular basis, and then in small doses. It makes alot of difference in the dope you buy, especially when going on the internet to forums that discuss the dreaded weed. Arrivaderci tutti, the next time you see Budha on the road - get him high!

[catfish]

Man Paolo–that is truly some gnarly shit. I guess that's what happens when herb goes commercial. It's too bad that the marketing elements don't realize one of the main reasons why people from all walks of life smoke it...it's supposed to be all natural.

[Rotifer]

Some friends of mine were visiting from Boise. We smoked a bit and pulled a 36 mile ride, parts of which were under 4+ inches of snow. The sun was out and it was beautiful. The pot only enhanced my pleasure and performance. Of course, I don't smoke that often anymore and it was superior stuff ... wow.

[Paolo]

I found a connect at Global Village, a "social center" for all the world, but mostly the cultural mixture of Africa, Turkey, America, Germany, Italy, and just about everywhere else....the place rocks with concerts and niteclubs every weekend....and the Africans have there own home grown...strait from home, smooth and clean...I feel like I am floating on a cloud when I puff the magic dragon...and I ride..and ride...and riding high is the way to relieve the burden of a city that rots within...the shit. Just let it go - brother.....A presto, a domani, arrivaderci....Paolo

[catfish]

!

[chunk]

Originally posted by Paolo
I feel like I am floating on a cloud when I puff the magic dragon...and I ride..and ride...and riding high is the way to relieve the burden of a city that rots within...the shit. Just let it go - brother.....A presto, a domani, arrivaderci....Paolo

Amen Paolo. A nice little buzz and a bicycle makes everything just fine...

[instigator]

i don't smoke the herb and i never have, and plan to never do it. but if you guys like it, so be it. i respect your opinion. we're here to ride anyway, aren't we? enjoying riding is the only thing that matters. on another note, just curious, does the reeking crew of dirt rag smoke the natural stuff at all? all i know is i damn well can't afford it, and i don't hang with that crowd in my area, so i'm not exposed. but whatever your cup of tea, ride on.

[DirtRagArt]

No way man, that stuff gives you drain bramage...

[chunk]

Are you speaking for the whole DR staff? ;)

[Tennessee]

Originally posted by ozrules
I've only noticed, and known of, smokin' riders in the last two years, in San Diego. How widespread is this?

widespread.

the entire globe.

:cool:

[quazar76]

I consider myself to be a very well informed smoker. I make my decisions based on facts that I have studied, but more importantly on my own life experiences. Ain't nothin wrong with it, and it certainly does not have the negative affects that alcahol does.

This is an interesring thread. several years ago when I really started getting serious about riding I thought that there was no way that any other bikers led a similar lifestyle to mine. Now I know that i was very wrong, and I have made many friends who enjoy doing what I do.

I also thought i might add that i enjoy elevated night riding by myself on a regular basis... this is probably one of the funnest things in the world, I actually become less fearful when under the influence.

Marijuana is also one of the only natural occuring bronchiodialators known to man. Yes, that's right, it actually opens up your lungs. However, as you are smoking it you will eventually become ill, as is the case if you smoke anything.

So if you have the finances, the ideal thing is to injest it in your favorite meal or drink. Fruit shakes work awesome!

Right now, however my new thing is to head out on the xc telemark skiis, great fun and ohhh...feel the flow!

Not trying to push anything on anyone, that would be stupid, but I must tell it like it is. I really like when I pass the hard core spandex guys with a relaxed funk buzz!

Smoke em if you got em!

[Rotifer]

There's a reason sports stars are caught with pot - quality stuff can enhance your performance. Well, I'll rephrase that; it adds a different perspective to your riding. For some, I imagine, this doesn't help much.

However, as you are smoking it you will eventually become ill, as is the case if you smoke anything.

If you smoke 4 times a day or buy crap, you'll end up doing more harm than good.

[steevo]

when hiking the AT, my friend met a guy who carried 2 nalgene bottles full of BC bud. He said the first time they smoked, he sat down and ate his next 3 days worth of food, and had to turn back to restock.
After that, they would smoke and walk 10 miles without even noticing the pain or monotony of it all.
Imagine 2 nalgenes full of weed. haha.

[Opie]

Still haven't tried weed. I can't even say I have ever seen it. All we grew was corn. I wonder if I can find a place out here in California to try some.

[real_ss_budgie]

whatever opee!! you owe me $250 for the ounce i sold you........flea market???? hey!!??

[kingstumps70]

never did it,just don't get how one can ride and focus when flying down the......Ooh,never mind I think I get it.

[rockyrider]

Riding and the dreaded weeds.... in this area.

Heracleum mantegazzianum (http://www.invasiveplantcouncilbc.ca/invasive-plants-bc/invasive-plant-watch/giant-hogweed)

Echinopanax horridus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil%27s_Club)

Rubus discolor (http://www.invasiveplantcouncilbc.ca/invasive-plants-bc/invasive-plant-watch/himalayan-blackberry)

[KDWeb]

Dudes...this thread.... is like from.... 2002

Totally!:cool: Yeah, he's not smoking anything

[Repack Rider]

Sorry dude, you'll have to crash in the bike room.

[wigger thomas]

The Cali harvest is spectacular.

Saw a couple very nice outdoor strains back east too this year.

[Beaker]

This (http://www.fitsugar.com/5512136) arrived in one of my RSS feeds today, oddly congruous with the reincarnation of this thread. If you don’t get the root, the weed just keeps comin’ back.

Never had an interest in the stuff myself or any other illicits for that matter. Know plenty who have a close relationship with it though. I’m being honest when I say to a person they all regret it on some level, be it cementing them in place for decades, weight gain, prison or all three.

I remember in grade school Health class my friends would scoff at the label ‘Gateway Drug’. Again, can’t think of one of ‘em that didn’t try more advanced cocktails, some to great harm. The most fascinating instances to me are the girls I used to date, now women with families of their own. Kids get involved in things a lot younger these days and I’ve actually witnessed the moment when the mind snapped and one of these women became her own mother, the one thing she swore up and down years ago never to become. Barely containing my laughter behind a smile I was thinking (though didn’t dare say), “Hello Pot, meet Kettle.”

[wv_bob]

I remember in grade school Health class my friends would scoff at the label ‘Gateway Drug’. Again, can’t think of one of ‘em that didn’t try more advanced cocktails, some to great harm.

It only seems like a gateway drug, people that are going to do hard drugs will get there whether they start out smoking or not.

[Beaker]

You think so? I’m not arguing, just curious.

I’ve heard of a genetic predisposition to alcoholism but never drugs. I didn’t mean to imply all my friends who use graduated to heroin and stayed there, just that they didn’t stop with marijuana. Whether it was hash, shrooms or acid at a Dead show... any number/color of pills or XTC at rave... coke in some Ivy League Greek house... all of them have tried something harder. Some came back, some didn’t. I guess my point is, if you’ve an addictive personality, why go looking for your demise? And this isn’t just about drugs - a guy I know was handed one of those little office pool football sheets. That lead to multiple bookies and ended in a mountain of debt and a failed career and relationship. Not everyone is strong enough to get their poop back in order and recover from these depths.

[wigger thomas]

head stand bong hits or F.O.:D

[Beaker]

head stand bong hits or F.O.:D

You seem up to speed on the Left Coast - what's the deal out there these days?

Friends of mine acquired some kind of grow permits out there years ago, got greedy and harvested way beyond whatever limits were set. The state didn't so much care I gather since any income, taxed or not, eventually winds up in the economy and they're pickin' pennies off the street to get by. The Feds, however, saw (see?) things in a different light, and it wasn't metal halide. They rolled on Cannabis Creek, had a forest fire and threw the Library of Congress at my buds. They started out dank but will be dry as farts by their release.

[wv_bob]

I’ve heard of a genetic predisposition to alcoholism but never drugs.

I think some people just have addictive personalities - drugs, booze, gambling, sex, facebook, you name it, and people get hooked on it. So IMO the only reason hard core abusers start with weed is because that was the first thing they encountered.

I think bread is the true gateway drug. Anyone who ever ended up strung out on drugs had bread before they started down that road. :)

[rockyrider]

There;s been a lot of scientific studies (http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19125661.200-hooked-why-your-brain-is-primed-for-addiction.html) that a tendency for addiction is genetic, and not limited to drugs, alcohol, or DR Forums.

[Repack Rider]

I dare you to find a drug user who didn't start with milk.

For me, a tricycle was the gateway to my current addiction.

[animalsrtasty1]

I dare you to find a drug user who didn't start with milk.

For me, a tricycle was the gateway to my current addiction.

Tricycle got me too, then it was on to the harder stuff... training wheels, no training wheels, no coaster brake.... been a real downward spiral ever since. And lets not even get started on the folks I hang out with. Many of them have even experimented with road bikes when the trails were too muddy.

[wigger thomas]

You seem up to speed on the Left Coast - what's the deal out there these days?

Friends of mine acquired some kind of grow permits out there years ago, got greedy and harvested way beyond whatever limits were set. The state didn't so much care I gather since any income, taxed or not, eventually winds up in the economy and they're pickin' pennies off the street to get by. The Feds, however, saw (see?) things in a different light, and it wasn't metal halide. They rolled on Cannabis Creek, had a forest fire and threw the Library of Congress at my buds. They started out dank but will be dry as farts by their release.

Check with Repack. Last I heard was a 30 plant limit.

Hard to smoke 100 lbs. But I'll give it a shot when I retire:D At 3k a pound [pretty low guess] that's 300K in potential income.:eek:

[Marticus]

Alcohol is my anti-drug.

[Beaker]

Now wait just a kola pickin' moment!

News to me about predispositions to hard drug abuse, but you yoots actually KNOW people who chronically use the sticky and have NEVER touched anything harder?

Methinkst summayall is blowin' a contact-high my way.

And pass on the milk - contains hormones that'll give ya' boobs.

[rockyrider]

News to me about predispositions to hard drug abuse, but you yoots actually KNOW people who chronically use the sticky and have NEVER touched anything harder?You just described half the people in Whistler under 40. Just the lawyers do coke all the time.

[Beaker]

Christ in a canoe... you make it sound like there’s a Rastafari Renaissance underway. Still can’t figger the interest. Now if you were holdin’ say a baggie of Oreos, well then you’d have my attention.

[Jay13]

You just described half the people in Whistler under 40. Just the lawyers do coke all the time.

That is the funniest thing I have read in a while...

[Jay13]

Now if you were holdin’ say a baggie of Oreos, well then you’d have my attention.

You sure you don't smoke?:p

[rockyrider]

Christ in a canoe... you make it sound like there’s a Rastafari Renaissance underway. Still can’t figger the interest. Now if you were holdin’ say a baggie of Oreos, well then you’d have my attention.Hell, Ross Rebagliati (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Rebagliati) is running for election. In BC it's hardly a Renaissance, the 60's have never stopped here (http://bcmarijuanaparty.com/).

[Beaker]

You sure you don't smoke?:p

Nah, I grind up and snort the cookie layers and mainline the 'stuff' - smoking is bad for you.

[Repack Rider]

Another jackalope sighting.

[wigger thomas]

Is that a Sativa? Or is it all Indica out there?

[S. cerevisiae]

Is that a C. sativa? Or is it all C. indica out there?

Sorry, the biologist in me can't let the little inaccuracies go...

[rockhound]

Still can’t figger the interest.

Same here, I don't get it.

Now if you were holdin’ say a baggie of Oreos, well then you’d have my attention.

Substitute BEEF JERKY AND CHEESE STICKS for Oreo's and I'm in.

[Beaker]

Substitute BEEF JERKY AND CHEESE STICKS for Oreo's and I'm in.

Health Nut, eh? Not my style.

[lubes17319]

Sorry, the biologist in me can't let the little inaccuracies go...
As long as the proctologist in ya keeps to himself, we're allgood.

[Mo0se]

I have a couple friends that enjoy their personal freedoms.. It damn sure does not make my ride, or the group ride less interesting. It does not take away from it either. I dont have the authority to bless, or judge.

[real_ss_budgie]

i honestly beleive that persons that dont smoke whilst mtbiking are roadies.

xx

[S. cerevisiae]

i honestly beleive that persons that dont smoke whilst mtbiking are roadies.

xx

Easy enough to say in a land where they do not have randumb testing...

[kingstumps70]

I used to blaze trees until about 5-6 years ago.Then when I got into mtbing,I come to find out mtbers are lighting up.And bringing 24oz.beers along for the ride.Thats asking to go the hospital.Miles Rockwell and Missy Giove get busted for growing,I guess its part of the lifestyle.Im all for post ride beers,but driving all the way home buzzed and high?not cool,save that s@#$ for home.

[animalsrtasty1]

Why drive to go ride? Seems like a crazy idea, burning 5 or so gallons on the way to ride. Wait.....road trip anyone?

[Repack Rider]

I know, it's an onerous chore, but as soon as these bales of hay are in the barn, we'll start the Thanksgiving party.

Last in a series.

[Bobo Esperante]

Everybody Young Chang tonight. But don't drop it.

[Repack Rider]

Everybody Young Chang tonight. But don't drop it.

We have a rule. Do not wang chung on the Young Chang. Tonight or any other night.

[Badassbassangle]

Nice tray Repack, but can you play frisbee with it??

[singletrackmind]

i honestly beleive that persons that dont smoke whilst mtbiking are roadies.

xx

Yep. Smoke, then smoke the roadies on the way to the trails. Flying by, knobbies a hummin, they dont know what happened.

[Beaker]

..yer all toned, the lot 'o ya.

*note to self: start selling falafels and grilled cheeses at trailheads, make killing, retire early.

[Ripp]

I don't care if you do or don't. I don't, at least not pre-ride, sometimes post, sometimes not. Couple of the guys I ride with do, always, many don't at all. It's all a non-factor in my mind. But someone who has NEVER, I will likely not (and I'm speaking from historical perspective, not setting rules) ever be great friends with.

[Beaker]

Bro, that hurts me deep.

[Opie]

Still searching for my first drag. I bought some joints from a high school kid in my apartment complex and it turned out to be basil. I unrolled the 2 remaining joints and mixed it in with some penne & olive oil. Olive Garden would have been cheaper.

[plume_mtb]

I made a rule for myself not too long ago - no more herb on rides... had a massive panic attack in the middle of nowhere. No fun. Heart was surely going to explode etc... I'm actually cutting way back in general.

Just doesn't do what it used to for me. I'd rather ride sober - bikes = all the drug I need.

Plus I'm exponentially faster when not puffing. but... to each his own. In general if it works for you it's not my business!

[KDWeb]

Just doesn't do what it used to for me. I'd rather ride sober - bikes = all the drug I need.

Plus I'm exponentially faster when not puffing. but...to each his own. In general if it works for you it's not my business!

OK, OK ...dude...lemme see if I got this right...sober minus bikes equals ME not being a happy dude! Oh wait! Dude....I get it....you 'd rather ride sober 'cause bikes is all the drug you need! That is sooooo knarrley to the third power!

Jeff

[Marticus]

Still searching for my first drag. I bought some joints from a high school kid in my apartment complex and it turned out to be basil. I unrolled the 2 remaining joints and mixed it in with some penne & olive oil. Olive Garden would have been cheaper.

Are you kidding? I hope you're kidding. Didn't you notice the sweet pungence of Italian food seasoning? It's a l'il bit diff'rnt from the aroma of authentic bud, ya know. Or did you just assume a drug-dealing high schooler would be on the up-and-up and didn't bother to look in the bag? If all this is true, what did you do to the kid when you found out he took money for Oregano? I think I might have wanted to sit him down for a stern talkin' to about the importance of meeting custome expectations to stay viable in a free-market.

[Opie]

Are you kidding? I hope you're kidding. Didn't you notice the sweet pungence of Italian food seasoning? It's a l'il bit diff'rnt from the aroma of authentic bud, ya know. Or did you just assume a drug-dealing high schooler would be on the up-and-up and didn't bother to look in the bag? If all this is true, what did you do to the kid when you found out he took money for Oregano? I think I might have wanted to sit him down for a stern talkin' to about the importance of meeting custome expectations to stay viable in a free-market.

Apparently I dug up a seven + year old thread. It's this youthful naïveté that results in such things as this & the election of President Obama. Tough love is the most effective way to learn. Despite claims, Calgon will not take me away from life's frustrations & failures. So I blame no one but me. I figured all herbs smell like herbs.

[real_ss_budgie]

Are you kidding? I hope you're kidding. Didn't you notice the sweet pungence of Italian food seasoning? It's a l'il bit diff'rnt from the aroma of authentic bud, ya know. Or did you just assume a drug-dealing high schooler would be on the up-and-up and didn't bother to look in the bag? If all this is true, what did you do to the kid when you found out he took money for Oregano? I think I might have wanted to sit him down for a stern talkin' to about the importance of meeting custome expectations to stay viable in a free-market.

i dint hit me till BIG MAX stoked up the splifton that i was on the other side of the planet.

KS DRONGO'S

[Mo0se]

i dint hit me till BIG MAX stoked up the splifton that i was on the other side of the planet.

KS DRONGO'S
I think I remember being there... and Max spent the last 3 weekends at my house. I think the stuff he had, clouded your judgement.. you actually wanted to ride my lefty cannondale 29uh. Good times. :)

[real_ss_budgie]

*cough*......

[real_ss_budgie]

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[Orsino]

Nice nugs, CK.

Ripssss & rides.

[strong dog]

The only weed I dread is poison ivy. to each his/her own, it has no impact on you so get off the high horse guys. that said, i always appreciate it when people are discreet about it and not getting toked right on the trail. people have kids and such, just be responsible about it.

[real_ss_budgie]

yeah...............

[Beaker]

..it has no impact on you so get off the high horse guys.

..yeah, every dollar spent on illegal drugs in this country goes to education - has nothin' ta do with gangs, cartels or funds for all of our Third World benefactors. In fact, I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that all that hoopla on the Mexican border is about coffee, incited by some Socialist wingnut named Juan Valdez.

Six feet down the Earth is full of collateral damage.

Now Merry Christmas, dammit.

[Repack Rider]

..yeah, every dollar spent on illegal drugs in this country goes to education - has nothin' ta do with gangs, cartels or funds for all of our Third World benefactors.

Tell that to the violent moonshiners and cigarette smugglers who deal in drugs that are legal to own.

It's a WEED, it does not require harsh chemical processing and you can grow it yourself, unlike all those "other" drugs that finance violent crime and poison the environment. You don't have to give any money to cartels if you grow your own, and if you make a profit you can help the economy of your local grocery store or bike shop.

What a country!

[real_ss_budgie]

po box 138 ashton sa 5137

mark it: bicycle component.

schtum!!!

[KDWeb]

Picked this up off the Richmond Times this morning....this gals getting more years in the slammer then she is old! Yikes!

http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/ex-mountain-bike-champ-missy-giove-admits-drugs-offences-24473

[strong dog]

"Six feet down the Earth is full of collateral damage."
It must be nice to see things so clearly, and to have such a clear conscience.

[S. cerevisiae]

Picked this up off the Richmond Times this morning....this gals getting more years in the slammer then she is old! Yikes!

http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/ex-mountain-bike-champ-missy-giove-admits-drugs-offences-24473

I find the sentencing guidelines for marijuana completely ludicrous. The fact that it's even a schedule drug is flabbergasting enough, but 40 years hard time?

Legalize them all and eliminate the criminal element from their distribution. Make them all available through "liquor" or "state" stores. Put an age limit on them (I guess).

People with real problems toward addiction are still getting the drugs illegally. At least if they were legal and taxed the taxes could be used as revenue for addiction treatment there-bye alleviating private insurance from under-funding it.

*steps down from soap box and walks away*

[Beaker]

Tell that to the violent moonshiners and cigarette smugglers who deal in drugs that are legal to own.

It's a WEED, it does not require harsh chemical processing and you can grow it yourself, unlike all those "other" drugs that finance violent crime and poison the environment. You don't have to give any money to cartels if you grow your own, and if you make a profit you can help the economy of your local grocery store or bike shop.

What a country!

I’m not excusing any illegal activity – and I honestly can’t recall the last violent moonshiner story covered by the media.

Weeds happen, I get it, but that’s a rationalization. Rocks happen too and yet there are laws that state I can’t pick one up and bludgeon someone with it. And that’s not true what you say about the environmental impact of growing. Indoor growing uses a shit-load of electricity, which generally speaking has a dirty past. Large outdoor grow sites almost always have contamination from machinery.

But this is all beside the point - I never said every dollar goes to crime, though I firmly believe the majority does.

Picked this up off the Richmond Times this morning....this gals getting more years in the slammer then she is old! Yikes!

http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/ex-mountain-bike-champ-missy-giove-admits-drugs-offences-24473

That’s a sad story, but I have to ask myself, “why?” What possesses someone to move millions of dollars of pot 3k miles across a country where the penalties are known? Would any of you do the same?

I can type with confidence that no one reading this would voluntarily push a stranger in front of a an oncoming subway car, yet this woman likely ran with a crowd early enough and long enough that it desensitized her to just what was at risk. Even if she does just ten years, at the pace society travels now, what are her odds when she’s released from our stellar correctional system?

"Six feet down the Earth is full of collateral damage."
It must be nice to see things so clearly, and to have such a clear conscience.

There is no ‘S’ on my chest or halo over my head, but yeah, at the risk of offending people, I don’t believe in crutches - I prefer to cowboy-up and square-off to Life.

…Legalize them all and eliminate the criminal element from their distribution. Make them all available through "liquor" or "state" stores. Put an age limit on them (I guess).

People with real problems toward addiction are still getting the drugs illegally. At least if they were legal and taxed the taxes could be used as revenue for addiction treatment there-bye alleviating private insurance from under-funding it.

*steps down from soap box and walks away*

I believe it will happen, and therein lies the irony… complete the circle that begins the downward spiral. They’ve taxed alcohol and cigarettes since before any of us were born, where does that money go? Your faith is stronger than mine in the face of this (http://usdebtclock.org/) and this (http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=711).

[mr chris]

addiction is a mental health issue and should be treated
as such. i would legalize everything...

[real_ss_budgie]

addiction is a mental health issue and should be treated
as such. I would legalize everything...

oi!''''''''''''

[BMAC]

addiction is a mental health issue and should be treated
as such. i would legalize everything...

I wish that the judge that sentenced my daughter to 1 1/2 years in prison today had that attitude.