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Old 05-09-2005, 05:42 PM
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Ok, so what do you folks think about #114? Favorite art/photo/story/news item/etc.?
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Got it today. The 100 mile training article smacks of Bicycling, and like their "how to" articles contains some good info. Its also the first thing I read. Then I read Last Chance for Gas, which was great. There's no easy solution to that problem, but at least someone in the next generation is thinking about it. A good read. The third thing I read was How to be a Cyclist. Andrew's off to a good start. Give him another 20-30 years or so and he'll be all set.

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Old 05-10-2005, 09:04 AM
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Got it last night and only had a chance to quickly cruise through the pages. I just want to ask woog a quick question. . . Did you teach your son how to stick his tongue out while riding a bike too?
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Old 05-10-2005, 09:15 AM
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had to deal with the electric company and an insurance agency yesterday. THANK GOD there was a spankin' issue of the Dirt Rag in my mailbox when i got home. it saved my day. looks real nice mr G. well laid out I thought, and i dig the cover. once again proving that you're not a regular mountain bike mag. haven't sunk my teeth into yet...but certainly a solid issue.
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Got it last night and only had a chance to quickly cruise through the pages. I just want to ask woog a quick question. . . Did you teach your son how to stick his tongue out while riding a bike too?


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Old 05-10-2005, 01:16 PM
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Loved the issue! It was a great ending to a road-trip through Upper Michigan and around to Niagara Falls ... coming home to the Burgh and finding a new issue of DR!!!

Flipped right to "The Rider's Eye" (favorite section) and then to Karl's article ... and explained to my wife how he's the guy who led the trail build at North Park last weekend. Its almost like DR is a local magazine.
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Are Mikey and his bike members of team "Sanford and Son"?

That bike is something else! Totally the opposite pole of those carbon fiber clad shifters reviewed elsewhere in the issue.

A little bit from the far ends and some stuff in-between... just what is expected from a issue.
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Old 05-11-2005, 01:42 PM
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The cover art was the best in a long time.

The "What Some Guy Rides" picture made me laugh. Nice MBA spoof (as if they needed to be made fun of, they do it to themselves each issue).

The Redline review was nice, I rode one for 6 years. They are great bikes for the money and perfect for what John is using his for, exploring random trails you find on road rides. I haven't made it through the rest of the issue yet.
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#1 General Comment:
I think one of the pictures for each of the bike tests should be of the reviewer riding. It helps a lot in conveying the geometry and style of the bike. I remember seeing this once in Michael Browne's review of the Diamondback freeride bike?

#1 Issue Specific Comment:

The Jerusalem article was different and very interesting, though I was dissapointed every time I turned the page and there were no more pictures! For an article that spanned six pages three pictures is not enough, especially when the subject of the article is an exotic land. The title picture was way too dark to justify taking up a whole page, and I never got to see the stair gaps, local and admittedly diverse riders, or angry father figures. I'm upset because I really cared about the piece.

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The color of the cover is nice, though the bike carnival is a bit average in conception. In fact, I found that most of the large art pieces were disappointing. The contents page was very plain, though I'll bear it for the sake of diversity and the limited production of bicycle watercolors. I think Mike Pfaltzgraff has been relied on a little too much lately. I understand that it's hard to commission article specific work, but his simplistic style is starting to wear on me. While he creates some decent work, I found the Endurance Racing backgrounds to be nothing more than space fillers.

Philip Newsom's colorful crowd and open white space was refreshing and yet detail enough to encourage closer observing. David Biber's work was professional as always, and unique in conception.

The small little artworks hidden throught the issue were really the saving grace artistically. The numerous black and white cartoons and the works of Pokey proved to be the most interesting.

May I suggest against using photos on the subscription and postcards as the contrast is often washed out and the picture becomes dull.

Departments:

The In the Headlines section once again proved itself as a valuable resource, and inspired my to research further, one of the best things a magazine can do.

The Dirt Rag Index was particularly hard to grasp this time, and illustrates the dangers of uninterpreted statistics. I'm still glad to struggle with it.

The Dirt Bag Way, while informative was too expensive an idea for the likes of me

The Old Coot's old perspective was still a valuable reminder about the always confusing pseudo-science of bike fit, but I didn't need to read about him winning a raffle... their was no lesson there.

The Inside Line was nice and detailed in descriptions and photos.

Last Chance for Gas looked nice with the green and red, but as usual there was very little substance. The links and idea might benefit someone, but telling readers that kids are obese and that bike commuting is hard is a tad silly. I'd rather read about the encounters the author had thanks to being the notorious biker.

I haven't read the builder profile yet, though it is often my favorite section, but the pictures were disappointing. When I read about builders I want to see their work space, and if you are going to use up two photos to show me the two builders, at least give them two different bikes to show off! I like to think of photos as a resource. Make sure every picture shows as much detail as possible. Either by being a close up, or by using the background to show off the environment. I don't need to see the builder's whole bodies and earth toned outfits, and I don't need to see the garage door... twice! Show me their face as they work on some detail and use the remaining space to give me a sense of their workshop.

The Dykstra Interview was interesting, and he had a lot of interesting points to make about biking and bike building. Since the picture was taken by a family member I assume it was the only one you had to work with so I can accuse you for using the same picture for the artsy sidebar. The warped effect is fine, but normally I would want a new picture of something about his life I haven't seen yet.

The reviews of bikes and products were nicely diverse and unique. I especially enjoyed reading about the two riding packs, the Profile Hub (beautiful picture of the pawls) and Schwinabart's personal journey with the Mongoose.

Microbytes is a great section. I always learn about some new aspect of bike accessory culture.
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Old 05-11-2005, 04:16 PM
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In defense of the Old Coot I think he was just trying to encourage folks to get involved in trail work. He did indeed win a raffle, but there was more to it than that. I'm sure most involved with NEMBA would agree that it couldn't have gone to a more involved, and deserving, individual. I think he used his winning as a way to segue into the subject of trailwork.

I agree it would be cool to see you guys riding the bikes you test. Maybe you could do that in an MBA style as well. Of course you'd all have to shave your legs, get buff and look really, really serious.

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Just skimmed through it. Totally didn't expect it so soon, and quelle surprise, it was on my dining room table when I walked in.

What I saw I liked. Got two double bourbons in me right now, but will get into it later and read some more.
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In defense of the Old Coot I think he was just trying to encourage folks to get involved in trail work.
I know that was the pretext for the segment, but honestly I don't see raffles as a major reason to do trail maintenance, and many of the small associations that need volunteers can't afford to give away a bike. That said, yes, anytime something inspires a reader to get out there and help it is worthwhile. I just think a piece about forming friendships and a better connection with the trail would be more effective on that front.

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Maybe you could do that in an MBA style as well. Of course you'd all have to shave your legs, get buff and look really, really serious.
Hehe... I didn't mention it, but that spoof was particularly brave on Dirt Rag's part. The more cooperate mags seem to live in a vacuum. I'm interested to see if MBA gets any letters about it, or if R.C. and his hair rant on the topic.
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Best cover yet

even if it is orange this is my favorite cover, so far.
I also liked the story on Jerusalem and agree with the squirrl that it should have had more pictures especially considering the regular references to the camera.

The riders eye is getting better each issue, you must be getting a lot of good shots each month to choose from. Agu Paiso's self portrait is pretty cool .

This months dirt bag way on how to add some gears to your SS doesn't quite seem to fit the theme for this column very well, I think this is going to be hard to maintain without reaching too far. I was going to write in about how throwing a pair of Pampers into my gym shorts works just as well as my $100 Italian bibs but I didn't think anyone would believe me.
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#1 General Comment:
I think one of the pictures for each of the bike tests should be of the reviewer riding. It helps a lot in conveying the geometry and style of the bike. I remember seeing this once in Michael Browne's review of the Diamondback freeride bike?

#1 Issue Specific Comment:

The Jerusalem article was different and very interesting, though I was dissapointed every time I turned the page and there were no more pictures! For an article that spanned six pages three pictures is not enough, especially when the subject of the article is an exotic land. The title picture was way too dark to justify taking up a whole page, and I never got to see the stair gaps, local and admittedly diverse riders, or angry father figures. I'm upset because I really cared about the piece.

Artwork:

The color of the cover is nice, though the bike carnival is a bit average in conception. In fact, I found that most of the large art pieces were disappointing. The contents page was very plain, though I'll bear it for the sake of diversity and the limited production of bicycle watercolors. I think Mike Pfaltzgraff has been relied on a little too much lately. I understand that it's hard to commission article specific work, but his simplistic style is starting to wear on me. While he creates some decent work, I found the Endurance Racing backgrounds to be nothing more than space fillers.

Philip Newsom's colorful crowd and open white space was refreshing and yet detail enough to encourage closer observing. David Biber's work was professional as always, and unique in conception.

The small little artworks hidden throught the issue were really the saving grace artistically. The numerous black and white cartoons and the works of Pokey proved to be the most interesting.

May I suggest against using photos on the subscription and postcards as the contrast is often washed out and the picture becomes dull.

Departments:

The In the Headlines section once again proved itself as a valuable resource, and inspired my to research further, one of the best things a magazine can do.

The Dirt Rag Index was particularly hard to grasp this time, and illustrates the dangers of uninterpreted statistics. I'm still glad to struggle with it.

The Dirt Bag Way, while informative was too expensive an idea for the likes of me

The Old Coot's old perspective was still a valuable reminder about the always confusing pseudo-science of bike fit, but I didn't need to read about him winning a raffle... their was no lesson there.

The Inside Line was nice and detailed in descriptions and photos.

Last Chance for Gas looked nice with the green and red, but as usual there was very little substance. The links and idea might benefit someone, but telling readers that kids are obese and that bike commuting is hard is a tad silly. I'd rather read about the encounters the author had thanks to being the notorious biker.

I haven't read the builder profile yet, though it is often my favorite section, but the pictures were disappointing. When I read about builders I want to see their work space, and if you are going to use up two photos to show me the two builders, at least give them two different bikes to show off! I like to think of photos as a resource. Make sure every picture shows as much detail as possible. Either by being a close up, or by using the background to show off the environment. I don't need to see the builder's whole bodies and earth toned outfits, and I don't need to see the garage door... twice! Show me their face as they work on some detail and use the remaining space to give me a sense of their workshop.

The Dykstra Interview was interesting, and he had a lot of interesting points to make about biking and bike building. Since the picture was taken by a family member I assume it was the only one you had to work with so I can accuse you for using the same picture for the artsy sidebar. The warped effect is fine, but normally I would want a new picture of something about his life I haven't seen yet.

The reviews of bikes and products were nicely diverse and unique. I especially enjoyed reading about the two riding packs, the Profile Hub (beautiful picture of the pawls) and Schwinabart's personal journey with the Mongoose.

Microbytes is a great section. I always learn about some new aspect of bike accessory culture.
While I don't agree with everything you say, and strongly disagree with some of your opinions, I do agree with some points and I really do appreciate the in-depth analysis. Thanks. And I'm glad you're into what we're doing enough to offer some well thought out commentarty (that goes for everyone).

One thing I think is interesting is that as the magazine grows and continues to look more and more like a traditional magazine (as opposed to resembling a zine' or a newsweekly like it did when I first started on issue #82) people's expectations continue to grow at a rate that matches or even surpasses the rate of improvement. But hey, onward and upward, right?
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Hey Jeff,

So Thanita and Maurice got dressed up for their D.C. trip. I am curious, would there happen to be a picture of Maurice all dressed up to post here for us?
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