Nalgene water bottle cage?

robcycle · #1 08-19-2005, 03:51 PM

So I have been thinking for a while and I want a bottle cage for my Nalgene bottle. I have a camelbak and am not worried about drinking on the run. So anyway, I have been wanting to get some thick steel wire and try to bend one up, but if someone else already makes it ...

So, does anyone know?

-Rob.

rockyrider · #2 08-19-2005, 04:22 PM

Nalgene makes a new OTG bottle cage combo

http://www.nalgene-outdoor.com/store...tegorycode=168

l'il andy · #3 08-19-2005, 04:38 PM

Does SIGG make a cage? I know they make bike bottles as well as the regular ones but a cage I haven' seen,

tryandgetme · #4 08-19-2005, 05:00 PM

"It will fit in most car cup holders, and it will fit into cup holders on most exercise machines"
farther down
"Recommended for 'extreme' adventures"

got a kick out of that

robcycle · #5 08-19-2005, 05:58 PM

The OTG looks nice, but I was looking for something in a 32, oz that is. I have grown quite attatched to that bottle over the years. And I found out today that I can fill it with Gatorade for $.79 at 7-11 as a refill.

Guess I'll look into bending heavy gauge wire and welding

Damn, I was hoping not to have to aquire those skills

-Rob.

knockahoma · #6 08-19-2005, 06:14 PM

i saw one at wal-mart that had an adjustable strap that was supposed to fit 32 oz gatorade bottles. i guess that would work. not sure of the quality being from walmart

and all.

model3224 · #7 08-20-2005, 02:53 AM

your

Quote:

Originally Posted by robcycle

The OTG looks nice, but I was looking for something in a 32, oz that is. I have grown quite attatched to that bottle over the years. And I found out today that I can fill it with Gatorade for $.79 at 7-11 as a refill

your 7-11 has gatorade on tap? that's pretty sweet.

in a related note, my 7-11 carries premixed ctyomax.

rockyrider · #8 08-20-2005, 09:53 AM

A 32oz bottle of water is just about 2 pounds when full, that's like one big honking battery pack. That cage is going to have to be pretty beefy and solid to keep that on the bike and not have the cage unravel like a sweater caught on a nail. One of the problems with larger diameter bottles is that the torsional forces (around the frame tube) start to be a big issue with the stability of the cage. Because it's only attached to the frame with the two bolts on the centreline, and usually with just two small contact points about 3/8" diameter because it sits on the bosses not the frame tube, the mass of bottle/water can exert a lot of force sideways, well away from the mounting point.

Your big bottle cage may need to have a curved stabilizing "foot" that sits directly on the frame tube to increase the support area beyond what you'd get with the bolt bosses being the only support.

Back in the old days before I switched to hydration packs I used to launch 20oz water bottles out of bottle cages like a PT boat firing depth charges.

librarymonkey27 · #9 08-20-2005, 10:41 AM

http://www.twofish.biz/

are you looking to drink while you ride, or just have to bottle with you on your bike? I was thinking about the TwoFish company and their velcro attachments. and Nalgene does have a padded bottle holder that could clip into a velcro holder, but you really couldn't pull it out while you are riding
:(l) monkey

funnytanlines · #10 08-21-2005, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by rockyrider

A 32oz bottle of water is just about 2 pounds when full, that's like one big honking battery pack.

it's not that big of a problem. 32 ounces is around a liter, right? Zefal makes 1 liter capacity bottles called Magnums. albeit they're the same diamater as a standard water bottle, but taller, so they're not as bulky as the Nalgene wide mouth bottles. i put one each on the bottle cages on my downtube & seattube without any problems. that's 2 liters (64oz.) or 2 kilos (4.4lbs) on my bike instead of on my back.

rockyrider · #11 08-21-2005, 11:14 AM

The problem I used to have with the wire type bottle cages is they couldn't contain the weight of a 20oz water bottle, so they'd always get launched off the bike. Sometimes the 20oz bottles would cause the aluminium wire cages to break, usually at the welds. I switched to the Profile composite cage that has a full wrap around the bottle and a rubber O-ring to keep the cage tensioned. I still use those for water bottle battery packs for lights, but even those are generally lighter than 2 pounds.

The bigger Nalgene bottles are about 4" in diameter and about the same height as a 20oz standard bottle and a standard water bottle is 2.75" in diameter, so that bigger bottle does provide a lot more leverage applied to the wire cage. A wire cage would have to be extra stiff to hold the bottle in the cage.

It's not that it can't be done, but the tendency for the big bottle to distort a wire cage and release the bottle will be greater, so you'd have to make sure the mounting base was substantial enough and the wire cage itself was heftier to minimize dynamic warping or distortion. Or you make the cage lightweight and use some sort of mechanical fastener or velcro system to hold the bottle in the cage. It's all an engineering tradeoff.

adam1 · #12 08-22-2005, 08:15 AM

check with the LBS, I think that I saw a cage for nalgene bottles when looking through there on a slow day at work. I would look for you but i am off till thurs.

eugarpst · #13 08-22-2005, 12:24 PM

I've seen people put the little 12-oz nalgenes in standard bottle cages.

That would be fine for a short commute, or if you're headed to work or school or some place where you can easily refill it.

Bikephreak · #14 08-22-2005, 11:08 PM

FYI,
You can get a very nice Nalgene water bottle from your friendly local bike shop that is made for bikes. They are available through QBP and retail for under $10.00. They have a flip cover over the spout, so you don't have to eat dirt to get a drink. They are 20 oz. and made right here in the good old USofA! I have been using them for about three years & I love them.